Do You Know Why You Don't Believe? (beliefs, experience, atheist)

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Papersock

Ok. But, as I've said, that is all subjective. How did you reach the conclusion that what you just said is true? Is it based on actual, measurable, and verifiable evidence?

No, it's not based on any real evidence.

It's based on pictures, things people said, and blueprints.

[rasor]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

No, it's not based on any real evidence.

It's based on pictures, things people said, and blueprints.

Just like bertrand russells celestrial teapot

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

But pictures can be faked.

I'm not comparing God to the Eiffel Tower, I'm comparing the level of evidence for both.

If you never visit Paris, the Eiffel Tower is just as intangible as God is.

We can, and do, know to some degree what God is. You just won't accept it.

You have a picture of God? Cool, could you post it please?

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by rasor

If your god can evolve that means he/she/it wasn't perfect in the first place,which means he/she/it isn't a god.

Yes it does and you are making the claim so back it up with proof.(which of course you'll sidestep because you have no proof)

Yes I do know.Its because there's no proof of any sort what so ever.Again I don't have to prove yor god doesn't exist,you have to prove he does.

If your god is not omniscient then he/she/it is not god.

What you actually said was

Make your mind up SP first you say he can't then you say he can but doesn't want to

No. Your view is quite lacking. Have you ever seen a baby being born? It's perfect.

Once again, my proof is the universe. Where's yours?

You don't have to prove God doesn't exist? Why not? Must be awfully convenient for you, I guess that's why you made it up that way, believing things without any proof whatsoever.

I didn't say God was not omniscient. Even so, please prove how the Creator of the universe has to be omniscient in order to be God or is this another famous athiest claim that no proof is required for?

I'm sorry you don't understand. Just add it to the very long list of things you don't understand.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

You have a picture of God? Cool, could you post it please?

Okay...





Wanna see it again?

[rasor]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

into the shape of the building without direction?

You need the same standard of evidence for believing in God as believing in anything else? Do you believe the Eiffel Tower exists?

Yes I do believe the Eiffel Tower exists and I've got photographical evidence of me and my wife standing at the top of it
No such evidence for believing in a god though.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by rasor

Yes I do believe the Eiffel Tower exists and I've got photographical evidence of me and my wife standing at the top of it

Umm, you're not actually expecting me to believe that fabrication are you? There are crazy people who see UFO's too!

Once again, provide some proof or quit making positive claims!

[camanintx]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

What is the reason you don't believe in God? Or the reason you're not absolutely positively sure God exists?

Because it violates Occam's Razor.

Originally Posted by Super Universe

I'd guess the number one reason is because people see bad things happening all around them and can't understand why God would allow it to happen.

Your guess is as good as mine.

Originally Posted by Super Universe

How would you rate the other reasons not to believe?

Don't care.

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Now the key question, where would you rate your own ego as a reason and do you realize it's the main reason?

0. As long as people don't try to force their beliefs on me, I couldn't care less if there is a God.

[rasor]

"What you actually said was"
? where's the next line gone ??? from my quoted reply ???
Make your mind up SP first you say he can't then you say he can but doesn't want to
And where's your answer this bit ??

Nice bit of editing out what you can't answer SP

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

No. Your view is quite lacking. Have you ever seen a baby being born? It's perfect.

A biological process that, without medical intervention, stands a good chance of killing the woman in question (or the baby, or both) is a far cry from "perfect", IMO.

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Once again, my proof is the universe. Where's yours?

Originally Posted by Super Universe

You don't have to prove God doesn't exist? Why not? Must be awfully convenient for you, I guess that's why you made it up that way, believing things without any proof whatsoever.

The implicit claim in your original post