Do You Know Why You Don't Believe? (beliefs, experience, atheist) - Page 53

Super Universe · #**521** 10-30-2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Willamena

If you can tell me how you know something that is unknown, then I'll believe you.

It's not unknown.

Everything visible is within the universe. Things visible are up to 13.7 billion light years away. Thus we have a universe with at least 13.7 billion light years of width, length, and height.

Panda · #**522** 10-30-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Willamena

If you can tell me how you know something that is unknown, then I'll believe you.

The Universe has limits, we do not need to know the limits to know they exist. The Universe has to have limits as it is expanding from one single point in the universe, like a bubble getting bigger and bigger.

Super Universe · #**523** 10-30-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

Fakery is done by people with their own agendas... with their own reasons for convincing people that something is true. What possible agenda can you think of for someone wanting to convince the world that a non-existent tall iron structure is actually standing in Paris?

Umm... try again. Or explain your response.

What agenda did the man who put on a Big Foot suit have? Maybe to fool people?

The atom is not enough proof of intelligence to you? Okay, try this, design something that an entire universe will be based on? Something better than the atom.

Panda · #**524** 10-30-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Universe

What agenda did the man who put on a Big Foot suit have? Maybe to fool people?

The atom is not enough proof of intelligence to you? Okay, try this, design something that an entire universe will be based on? Something better than the atom.

This is a nonsensical question. What are you asking? To design a better thing than an atom? Define better?

Willamena · #**525** 10-30-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Universe

It's not unknown.

Everything visible is within the universe. Things visible are up to 13.7 billion light years away. Thus we have a universe with at least 13.7 billion light years of width, length, and height.

Alright; but you said, "it's width, length, and height are not known." If it's not unknown, then to whom is it known? (regardless of the numbers)

Super Universe · #**526** 10-30-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda

This is a nonsensical question. What are you asking? To design a better thing than an atom? Define better?

It is does make sense, it's just tough, actually impossible.

Define better? Try Dictionary.com.

Super Universe · #**527** 10-30-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Willamena

Alright; but you said, "it's width, length, and height are not known." If it's not unknown, then to whom is it known? (regardless of the numbers)

To whom is the size of the universe known?

To whoever cares to look it up. It's quite readily available on the internet and at your local library.

And, to be more correct, what I said was:

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Originally Posted by Super Universe

The LIMIT of the universe is not known, that does not negate the fact that it still has some width, length, and height that we can see and even measure.

Panda · #**528** 10-30-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Universe

It is does make sense, it's just tough, actually impossible.

Define better? Try Dictionary.com.

Don't be stupid. How could the atom be better? Should it be smaller? Should it be bright pink? No you are asking a nonsensical and stupid question that has no relevance at all.

YmirGF · #**529** 10-30-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda

The Universe has limits, we do not need to know the limits to know they exist. The Universe has to have limits as it is expanding from one single point in the universe, like a bubble getting bigger and bigger.

Although I am no astrophysicist, even I can understand that there does not have to be boundaries. What you are stating is the view of some scientists who think we are within a "closed" system. It is entirely possible that if one follows a given point infinitely in any direction they will never reach the "edge" of the physical universe. My own theory is that the physical universe is growing faster than the speed of light (at the supposed "boundary areas", that is) and so our measurements will never be able to keep up with the expansion as our perception and instruments are bound by the current laws of physics. Oh well, I never assume I am right, so there is always room for corrections unlike those who have things all figured out. If I wanted to be a total snot, I could get indignant and demand folks prove me wrong, lol. Good luck.