Do You Know Why You Don't Believe? (beliefs, experience, atheist)

[Papersock]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Why do you think God is intangible and something that you cannot know?

Because god supposedly lives in another dimension from us that we cannot sensed. And anything that might be taken as sensing god is subjective and open to interpretation. God is an abstract idea.
If a god does exist it would be unlike anything we could possibly comprehend because it is beyond our realm of experiencing.

Something like that. I'm having trouble explaining it.

[eudaimonia]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

I did not make a typo. You need reasons to believe in God yet you do not need a reason to be an athiest?

That is correct. I don't need a reason to be an aleprechaunist either.

So particles just happen? And physical laws just happen?

Yes. That's no more strange than saying that "God just happens". I believe that natural reality is self-existent. It doesn't need to be created or propped up by anything else.

And life just happens?

Yes, given the right conditions, and through abiogenesis and natural selection.

Happens all the time.

It just needs to have happened once.


eudaimonia,

Mark

[Tiberius]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

But pictures can be faked.

I'm not comparing God to the Eiffel Tower, I'm comparing the level of evidence for both.

If you never visit Paris, the Eiffel Tower is just as intangible as God is.

We can, and do, know to some degree what God is. You just won't accept it.

Except we have countless sources of evidence for the Eiffel Tower. Countless photos, eyewitnesses, and I'm sure you could probably find the construction blueprints as well.

Care to show me anything like that for God?

No?

Then don't tell me that the Eiffel Tower is just as intangible as God is. because it's not.

[Willamena]

Originally Posted by Tiberius

Except we have countless sources of evidence for the Eiffel Tower. Countless photos, eyewitnesses, and I'm sure you could probably find the construction blueprints as well.

Care to show me anything like that for God?

No?

Then don't tell me that the Eiffel Tower is just as intangible as God is. because it's not.

God has texts, eyewitnesses, and construction blueprints if you know where to look (philosophy).

[doppelgänger]

Originally Posted by Willamena

God has texts, eyewitnesses, and construction blueprints if you know where to look (philosophy).

Mysticism = philosophy + storytelling.
Religion = mysticism - philosophy + authoritarianism.

[Panda]

Originally Posted by Willamena

God has texts, eyewitnesses, and construction blueprints if you know where to look (philosophy).

Yes but this is not the same, blueprints and pictures are objective sources. Philosophy, texts and eyewitness accounts are all subjective not facts but opinions

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

You can try. Your scientists are up to 13.5 now.

My scientists? You reject science then?

[doppelgänger]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

My scientists? You reject science then?

Isn't that hilarious? S_U responds to existentialism with an avid faith in empirical reality, but then poo-poos those aspects of empiricism that don't help him. It really is quite amusing.

[Super Universe]