Do You Know Why You Don't Believe? (beliefs, experience, atheist)

[UltraViolet]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

We're in the same boat, you're shoveling water into it, and I'm not one bit happy about it.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by theNEWreality

I find that to be just such an utterly strange statement.

When else would it be important to experience God but in the now moment?

I somehow think it's rather more like....

"God says to christians when they reach the pearly gates....
"I sent prophets, I sent Y'shua to tell you that the Kingdom is NOW,
and you did not enter into the fullness of NEW LIFE on earth,
in His example, cause you were so concerned with "winning" it
when your body was laid 6 feet under. The gates were before you all along.
I sent you windows, and doors in the spirit, but you chose doctrine instead of freedom.
You kept your eyes on the future... instead of walking into/in eternity."
"You forfieted your inheratance on earth, and yes. It does matter to me.
I'm not angry. But it's a real shame. Don't you think?"

You come to the earth to get away from God. Here, there is a covering preventing us from sensing our connection to God. That is the purpose of the earth, to allow your soul to experience different personalities and choose which aspects of it that it wishes to keep.

God is not testing us, we are testing ourselves.


If it was important for us to believe in God, then we would believe in God. God created the universe, He could force us to believe with the slightest thought.

[Buttercup]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

If you want to know the truth, this topic was intended to touch one specific person, not everyone.

Who is that one person? I feel left out.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Buttercup

Who is that one person? I feel left out.

I'm sorry. What can I say to you? There is nothing you would accept, no proof I can give to you. I did not even know you would reply.

What you believe is not wrong, and, what I believe is not right. You are who you are supposed to be because it is your choice. Having choice is extremely important in the universe, much more than you realize. Be who you are, if God can't/won't change you then I certainly will not.

But there is one who needs one small answer to a question, one puzzle piece to make it all suddenly fit together and remember. It's time to wake up now...

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Buttercup

And what happens to them?

They recycle back to the earth, again, and again, and again, and...

[YmirGF]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

I'm a theist and I hold no magic marble. I'm stuck here just as you are. We're in the same boat, you're shoveling water into it, and I'm not one bit happy about it.

Sadly, the rest of your blather is not worthy of a detailed response.

PS: Trust me, S_U we are most definitely NOT in the same boat, lol. You are welcome to believe whatever you must, however.

[UltraViolet]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

You come to the earth to get away from God. Here, there is a covering preventing us from sensing our connection to God.

I have come to the earth for a wondrous adventure IN God.
The churches teach that God is "out there" somewhere...
instead of teaching that "he" is the fabric of life that IS everything.

If God then is EVERYTHING (what else is there? outside of God?)

Then, every time I do something in ACTIVE Faith....
every time I "believe"...
I then believe "IN" God.

Where else would I believe?

Even if I "believe in myself"...
am I not in God?
So I cannot HELP then,
but to "believe in God".

That is the purpose of the earth, to allow your soul to experience different personalities and choose which aspects of it that it wishes to keep.

God is not testing us, we are testing ourselves.

I would say that is a very LIMITED view of why we are here,
and The purpose of the earth.

If it was important for us to believe in God, then we would believe in God. God created the universe, He could force us to believe with the slightest thought.

As I said before anyone who believes ANYTHING....
believes IN God.
And GOD doesn't even have to put forth the slightest thought about it.

[MidnightBlue]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Now the key question, where would you rate your own ego as a reason and do you realize it's the main reason?

Thank you for your unsolicited and uninformed analysis of my thought processes. It tells me all I need to know about your capacity for a reasonable discussion, which makes any reply to your other questions unnecessary and pointless.