Do You Know Why You Don't Believe? (beliefs, experience, atheist)

[UnTheist]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Great! Now simply... prove it!

Go to Paris...

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Fluffy

It is the lack of evidence which is preventing me from seeing that God created the universe.

To which you respond that there is evidence. And so I ask what evidence:


And so now I ask you "How does the universe support the existence of God?"

My claim is that there is no evidence for the existence of God. My evidence is the lack of evidence for the existence God.

Incredible complexity supports the conclusion that sentience created the complexity.

Your evidence is simply that you will accept nothing as evidence.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by UnTheist

Go to Paris...

Go to heaven...

[UnTheist]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Go to heaven...

You'll have to tell me where that is, and I will get a plane ticket as soon as possible

[Fluffy]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Incredible complexity supports the conclusion that sentience created the complexity.

Please develop this argument. Why or how does incredible complexity support the conclusion that sentience created the complexity?

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Your evidence is simply that you will accept nothing as evidence.

I have already given you an example of evidence that would convince me that God existed. More generally, complexity that cannot be explained by natural processes such as evolution. Therefore, there is evidence that I will accept.

[Ozzie]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

What is the reason you don't believe in God? Or the reason you're not absolutely positively sure God exists?

I'd guess the number one reason is because people see bad things happening all around them and can't understand why God would allow it to happen.

How would you rate the other reasons not to believe?

Now the key question, where would you rate your own ego as a reason and do you realize it's the main reason?

Based on the logic of your OP, I'd rate self-preservation as a positive in formulating the proposition, "God exists".

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by UnTheist

You'll have to tell me where that is, and I will get a plane ticket as soon as possible

Heaven is the center of the multiverse surrounded by the eleven dimensions. As God energy leaves heaven it changes density, essentially it condenses, it becomes more dense.

This change in density causes the time effect, time is faster here, slower as you move through the dimensions toward heaven while heaven is non-space/time. In order to get to heaven you have to enlighten yourself.

I don't think your plane will take you there.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Fluffy

Please develop this argument. Why or how does incredible complexity support the conclusion that sentience created the complexity?


I have already given you an example of evidence that would convince me that God existed. More generally, complexity that cannot be explained by natural processes such as evolution. Therefore, there is evidence that I will accept.

Cause and effect particles do not have sentience, thus, they cannot form that which they cannot imagine. They cannot become more than they are.

Simply put, lava does not make a Samurai Sword. Ever...

Evolution, while true, does not explain the origin of life. Evolution of energy/matter does not explain the origin of physical laws that control cause and effect particles.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Ozzie

Based on the logic of your OP, I'd rate self-preservation as a positive in formulating the proposition, "God exists".

Are you suggesting that one might choose to believe in God as a means for continued existence?

With the opposite being death and nothing else?