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Old 09-28-2007, 02:05 PM
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If one of our religions right now is the final true religion.... then why doesn't it feel perfect for everybody?

I mean, if you finally followed exactly the right religion, it must feel like you discovered the truth about the world and existance. Some of you will feel that way, but why not everybody in the same religion?
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:17 PM
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Just because something is true doesn't mean people accept it...
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One person's truth is another person's falsehood! I don't think there is any absolute truth where religion is concerned!
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:20 PM
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In my opinion, no one has it right. You cannot disprove god...but as for the religions that have been founded because of him, I'm not so sure.

To me a lot of them sound extremely silly...since Christianity has been around I think something like 32,000 different denominations have been created. All by humans who have a different opinions and lifestyles. Personally I think all humans have gotten it wrong, and those who continue to try and find the truth will fail.

One question, why....why can't you just believe in something greater than yourself, something else that made us...just something. Not Allah, not Jesus, or whomever. But something in the singular and plural sense. Why must people die because of their opinions, just because someone doesn't agree.

To me it's no different than language, you're all speaking something different, but you are speaking nonetheless aren't you? Communication is your objective isn't it? Isn't the goal of religion to become closer to god? Is anyone really wrong or right? Or are we all just different and unique in our own ways?
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One question, why....why can't you just believe in something greater than yourself, something else that made us...just something. Not Allah, not Jesus, or whomever. But something in the singular and plural sense. Why must people die because of their opinions, just because someone doesn't agree.
And many simply do believe in something without labeling it as "God" or "Spaghetti Monster." But it is so easy just to label that something, especially when attempting to communicate.

People die outside of religious reasons as well, often for just as superficial reasons.
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One question, why....why can't you just believe in something greater than yourself, something else that made us...just something. Not Allah, not Jesus, or whomever. But something in the singular and plural sense. Why must people die because of their opinions, just because someone doesn't agree.

To me it's no different than language, you're all speaking something different, but you are speaking nonetheless aren't you? Communication is your objective isn't it? Isn't the goal of religion to become closer to god? Is anyone really wrong or right? Or are we all just different and unique in our own ways?
I agree with you that it shouldn't be difficult for things to be this way, it makes sense, but humans have a tendency to concretize ideas into ideologies and then lose themselves in them. We see this not just in religion but politics and all walks of life, for both atheist and theist. I think it's the same (social) forces at work.
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If one of our religions right now is the final true religion.... then why doesn't it feel perfect for everybody?

I mean, if you finally followed exactly the right religion, it must feel like you discovered the truth about the world and existance. Some of you will feel that way, but why not everybody in the same religion?
for the same reason why good wouldnot be good itself without existance of bad.
Allah did creat everything with its opposite.
here on earth people who would earn heaven and hell are mixed. yet after dooms day they would be seperated as opposites.
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In my opinion, no one has it right. You cannot disprove god...but as for the religions that have been founded because of him, I'm not so sure.

To me a lot of them sound extremely silly...since Christianity has been around I think something like 32,000 different denominations have been created. All by humans who have a different opinions and lifestyles. Personally I think all humans have gotten it wrong, and those who continue to try and find the truth will fail.

One question, why....why can't you just believe in something greater than yourself, something else that made us...just something. Not Allah, not Jesus, or whomever. But something in the singular and plural sense. Why must people die because of their opinions, just because someone doesn't agree.

To me it's no different than language, you're all speaking something different, but you are speaking nonetheless aren't you? Communication is your objective isn't it? Isn't the goal of religion to become closer to god? Is anyone really wrong or right? Or are we all just different and unique in our own ways?
I agree with this and it does make a lot of sense ^_^ (you get a smile)
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To me it's no different than language, you're all speaking something different, but you are speaking nonetheless aren't you? Communication is your objective isn't it? Isn't the goal of religion to become closer to god? Is anyone really wrong or right? Or are we all just different and unique in our own ways?
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