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Old 08-24-2007, 12:09 AM
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Hi,

First off, I don't mean to insult anyone. I am just looking for answers. If this site is 'notorious' or offensive to members of the LDS faith, I apologize in advance. I certainly hope that this site isn't the LDS analog to Jack Chicks anti-Catholic rantings.

Now that we have the disclaimer taken care of...

Can a knowledgeable LDS member let me know what they think of the claims made on the site that attempts to provide an alternate view. If you google this -Investigating Mormonism- it will be the first hit.

Thanks!

Eric
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:28 AM
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It might help if you ask the questions that you have. If there is something in specific that we'd be able to answer for you that would be wonderful. Most sites have their own little agenda, and I try to avoid all of them except non-bias and the LDS Church's website (www.lds.org).

Richard Packham is an interesting man, a couple of years ago I tried a dialogue and all he did was spit insults and swear at me and tell me how dumb I was. I would do well to avoid it, and if you want truthful, kind answers that members of the LDS Church at this site will be more then happy to answer your questions.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:42 AM
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Hi MotoEric,

I'm not familiar with Richard Packham, but I am familiar with the website that is posted on. Obviously, from the title of the website, you can probably tell that it is filled with people who have a beef with the church.

Besides the site that Becky gave you (the official church site), you might be interested in LDS FAIR Apologetics Homepage or Mormons and Mormon Beliefs: An Introduction to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons) - Mormon Truth. Both sites provide answers to common "anti-Mormon" questions and accusations.

Here are some links to some answers to stuff he brings up in the "What the Missionaries Will Not Tell You" section:

LDS FAQ: Joseph Smith's First Vision Accounts (Origins of Mormonism)
Conflation of 1824-25 revival? - FairWiki.org
Ask Gramps » Why did Joseph Smith Jr. attempt in June 1828 to join the Methodist Church [probationary class] in Harmony, Pennsylvania?
Joseph Smith Criticisms-- Seer Stones
Book of Mormon Translation By Joseph Smith

That should be enough to get you started and realize that the guy is using half-truths to make his points.

I'm not going to go through all of these, but you can find answers pretty easily by searching at Mormon Search Engine - LDS Search Engine - OnlyMormon.com. If you're interested in a great book on Mormon history that doesn't ignore the hard questions, I'd recommend Joseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling by Richard Bushman.
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Hi,

First off, I don't mean to insult anyone. I am just looking for answers. If this site is 'notorious' or offensive to members of the LDS faith, I apologize in advance. I certainly hope that this site isn't the LDS analog to Jack Chicks anti-Catholic rantings.

Now that we have the disclaimer taken care of...

Can a knowledgeable LDS member let me know what they think of the claims made on the site that attempts to provide an alternate view. If you google this -Investigating Mormonism- it will be the first hit.

Thanks!

Eric
My opinion - general rubbish mixed with small bits and peices of truth to try to trick people into thinking it's all right.
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:09 AM
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Wow, that was quick!

Thanks for the replies and links. I'll check them out.

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Old 08-24-2007, 01:30 PM
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Is there archaeological evidence of a society in North America as described by the Book of Mormon?

Thanks,

Eric
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Most likely it was southern Mexico/Guatamala. I'm reading a book called "An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon" right now - it's pretty interesting - and, while I haven't gotten there yet, I'm sure he'll go into archeology. I'm sure you'll find people who will tell you all about how the reasoning in the book is wrong, but I'm not an expert in the field, so what do I know?
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Is there archaeological evidence of a society in North America as described by the Book of Mormon?

Thanks,

Eric
FARMS or FAIR are two good sites to go for for information on that.

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By the way, I've been going through the LDS Fair Apologetics page. Good stuff! Thanks for pointing it out.

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