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Old 08-07-2007, 02:00 PM
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Does something have to defy the laws of science to be a religious "miracle"?
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:10 PM
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Does something have to defy the laws of science to be a religious "miracle"?
i don't believe so. i see miracles all the time that are normal and do not disobey the "laws of science"
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:12 PM
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No. It just has to be improbable. (although some supposed miracles are not very improbable at all)
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Miracles as miracles are only convincing to the beholder.

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Old 08-07-2007, 02:37 PM
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No. Somebody could burn their toasted cheese just enough so that an image of the Virgin Mary appears.

All of that is covered under the laws of science.
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No. Somebody could burn their toasted cheese just enough so that an image of the Virgin Mary appears.

All of that is covered under the laws of science.
But what makes that a religious miracle, then? Don't miracles generally occur spontaneously to the person to whom they are revealed?
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But what makes that a religious miracle, then? Don't miracles generally occur spontaneously to the person to whom they are revealed?
I was just joking. I don't think it is a miracle anymore than I think it is a miracle when the Virgin Mary appears on a viaduct wall after a rainstorm, or worse yet, after somebody urinated

However, some people do classify such events as miracles.
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In1863, Baha`u'llah wasvisited by arepresentative ofoneof the primereligious schools in Karbila. The assembled mullahin requested Him to perform a miracle to convince the divines of Baha`u'llah's claim to revelation.

The younger professor of religion who came to Baha`u'llah with the challenge was very respectful. Baha`u'llah said He would perform any miracle IF the divines could agree as to what that miraclemight be. They also must agree to accept Baha`u'llah as aProphet of God if the miracle was performed.

The young scholartookBaha`u'llah's counter challenge back home.The professors of the school spent months trying to agree on a miracle. They decided they would not match the challenge for fear Baha`u'llah would deliver on Hisclaim.

The young professor was offended by the behavior ofhis masters, and carried their refusal to meet Baha`u'llah's requirements to Baha`u'llah. When he met with Baha`u'llah the young man accepted Baha`u'llah's claim and never returned to his school in Karbila.

Even amiracle that never takes place can convince.

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Look at ALL of the "miracles" and once you UNDERSTAND how they are done, then it doesn't seem like magic anymore, does it?

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