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[lilithu]

Originally Posted by rojse

Seriously, if he wanted to give us proof, why didn't he make all of the continents on earth spell His name? Or have the moon shaped as the cross? Those would be far less ambiguous proofs of his existence, and it would be quite easy considering he is omnipresent and omnipotent.

Seriously, not a week goes by that there isn't some window or cloth or potato chip or tortilla or what not that bears some resemblance to Jesus or a saint. And believers take it as proof and non-believers take it as either a coincidence of pigmentation or someone's fanciful imagination. If there were a moon shaped like a cross, would that really convince you? It wouldn't convince me. cross... x.... two intersecting lines.... rather common theme in nature.... just a coincidence....


As Einstein said, there's only two ways to views things, either everything is a miracle or nothing is.

[rojse]

Seriously, if God wanted to prove to everyone his existence, couldn't he do better than potato chips or tortillas? For someone who apparently shaped an entire universe in a day, he would be stooping pretty low.

No offense to any potato chip fans, I like them too.

Knowing that the moon was cross-shaped would convince me for two reasons. Firstly, over millions of years, the moon should have worn down due to meteoric impacts and so forth.

Secondly, all other heavenly bodies are rounded. It's no coincidence. Due to the way that heavenly bodies formed billions of years ago, anything shaped like a cross would be impossible - the rocks that joined together to form planets and asteroids took natural spheroidal shapes (not spheres) due to the influence of gravity. My knowledge of planetary formation would tell me this was impossible under any scientific explanation, therefore it must have been done by God.

What about the word GOD made of the continents? I did mention that last time. That would be pretty convincing, even to a skeptic such as myself.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by rojse

There are topics already that debate whether the universe is God's proof of his existence.

Seriously, if he wanted to give us proof, why didn't he make all of the continents on earth spell His name? Or have the moon shaped as the cross? Those would be far less ambiguous proofs of his existence, and it would be quite easy considering he is omnipresent and omnipotent.

You just answered your own question.

If He wanted to prove Himself to you, you'd have it.

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by rojse

There are topics already that debate whether the universe is God's proof of his existence.

Seriously, if he wanted to give us proof, why didn't he make all of the continents on earth spell His name? ...

Maybe He did but we haven't learned how to read yet.

[rojse]

You just answered your own question.

If He wanted to prove Himself to you, you'd have it.

That's a pretty poor copout. That just leaves me where I started, except, by your answer, there is a God that can't be bothered, to answer my religious questions at this time.

Maybe He did but we haven't learned how to read yet.

Surely, with his omnipresent powers, he could know how to write in English. Or Latin. Or Hebrew. Or any other of the multitudes of languages that have come and gone from popular usage. Surely there is a thousands upon thousands of them.

So, how come he decides to only appear to religious fanatics that already believe in God and can't afford to purchase well-made potato chips?

[HB3]

Originally Posted by notsowhole

okay NOW im 100% atheist. I've seen no proof so im going with logic

Ironically I just read a thread on can one disprove the existence of God. Now you want someone to prove God's existence. If there were proof, we wouldn't call it faith - I think someone has already said that on this thread.

My question though is, since you are going with logic and since God can be neither proved nor disproved, shouldn't you be 100% agnostic?

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by rojse

Surely, with his omnipresent powers, he could know how to write in English. Or Latin. Or Hebrew. Or any other of the multitudes of languages that have come and gone from popular usage. Surely there is a thousands upon thousands of them.

A continent shaped like a "G" an "O" or a "D" would be pretty cool. Plenty of beach front property.

Then again maybe He purposely made it obscure because He knows we like puzzles.

[Jeremiah]

Maybe God is to busy trying to figure out who made him, to come give us proof.

[Quagmire]

Or maybe He's just shy.

[HB3]

Originally Posted by rojse

Seriously, if he wanted to give us proof, why didn't he make all of the continents on earth spell His name?

Which name would you prefer. Seems as if every religion has a different one.