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Old 07-20-2007, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by A. Ben-Shema View Post
What ARE you saying? The Spirit NEVER changes - it is ETERNAL and CHANGELESS - it is TRUTH!

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This is the false teaching of Paul - the author of Christianity. The religion would be better called Paulism.

Jesus had authority to forgive sins while living, without the necessity of His death:
Matt 9:5-6 "Which is easier: to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk’? But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins. . . ."

It seems also that Jesus bestowed this authority to His initiated disciples:
John 20:22-23 "And with that he [Jesus] breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."

What say ye?

Peace & Love

I do agree with you here. There is this misconception that Jesus "gave up" his power when he came to earth but there are a few along with the chapter you cited where it shows he does have power on earth.

Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

At this point I don't believe he had ascended yet.
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