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Old 06-14-2007, 03:29 AM
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Some christian brothers asked me to give my interpretation of early verses of gospel of John.They interpret it as Jesus being described as son of God while i dis-agree.
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JN 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. JN 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Before creation of universe only Word(order/authority/say) was of God. There was no creature to use will power -or- to command.

“Word” means authority / order / decision making. / ”say” .

God was the only authority in the beginning. After God created humans & genies they were given FREE WILL. So now there r creatures who have a “WORD”, “Say” . President gives “ORDERs”. We “DECIDE” about things.
Though God still has THE ULTIMATE “Word”, but some of his creatures r also given the “Word” to a limited extent.
JN 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
JN 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men
He made universe, angels(Spirits with capital “S”), life(spirits with small “s” which r cause of life in living beings), & man from clay, genie from flame of fire, so on.

JN 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
JN 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Probably this points towards the fact that all living beings(darkness = otherwise dead) have spirit in them(light !!!), but they r NOT aware of it’s presence inside of them.

JN 1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
JN 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
JN 1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
( I have NO idea who was John , so a christian friend can better explain it to me.!!! May be he was an angel.)

JN 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
JN 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
May be John was an angle who was created & then given the duty to make world. & then...
JN 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God(angles), even to them that believe on his name:
JN 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
John created rest of angels by WILL(Word/order) of GOD.

JN 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
Now God’s Word(order/will) created Human(Flesh) i.e., Adam(Flesh) was made from caly & then God gave him life(Word of God) ---&--- Adam lived(dwelt) among angels(in heavens).

This “flesh” is NOT referring to Jesus rather it’s referring to Adam (& Eve) who DWELT In HEAVENS.

“us” refers to John & other angels. (coz John bare witness as in next verse..)

JN 1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
(I think christians also believe in that when Adam was created, all angels were ordered to prostate before him.). Created AFTER angels but preferred(HELD SUPERIOR) before them. Angels had to bow before Adam.
(“ He that cometh after me(John) is preferred before me: for he was before(SUPERIOR TO) me.”)


So it again refers to ADAM who was held superior to angels & ALL angels prostated before him.

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Old 06-14-2007, 03:47 AM
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John the Baptist is known to Muslims as Prophet Yahya...
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John the Baptist is known to Muslims as Prophet Yahya...
but in above verses it says world was made by him (John). Yahya did NOT made world !!!!

JN 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not
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but in above verses it says world was made by him (John).
The "him" in the verse is in reference to "the Light", "the Light" is Jesus.
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I have replied to this in the other thread where you posted it.

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