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Old 06-11-2007, 10:14 PM
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Default Anyoneelse see the similarities between Belief in God and Psychosis?

I'm not even remotely joking right now. I stand that Theism should be considered a form of psychosis.

the primary symptom that earns you a phychotic diagnosis is the concrete belief in something absolutley ridiculous and illogical (delusion).
People get locked up over seriously believeing that the Government is ran by aliens. People do not get locked up for believing that an invisable man that is watching over us who will judge us and send us to either heaven or hell and created the universe, ect.

The main similarity between the two is their credibility. There is as much evidence that God exists as there is evidence that aliens run the government. They are both technically possible, but are lunatic, farfetcht ideas.

Heavy delusion is the primary symptom of psychosis according to wikipedia.

that in mind, the following are, according to wikipedia again, the psycological definitions of "delusion":

certainty (held with absolute conviction)
incorrigibility (not changeable by compelling counterargument or proof to the contrary)
impossibility or falsity of content (implausible, bizarre or patently untrue)



Compare religious beliefs to the beliefs of people in lunatic asylums and it's clear they are one in the same. and as you are about respond and defend your belief, remeber the bit about
" incorrigibility (not changeable by compelling counterargument or proof to the contrary) "
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:17 PM
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II COrinthians 5:11vSince, then, we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade men. What we are is plain to God, and I hope it is also plain to your conscience. 12vWe are not trying to commend ourselves to you again, but are giving you an opportunity to take pride in us, so that you can answer those who take pride in what is seen rather than in what is in the heart. 13 If we are out of our mind, it is for the sake of God; if we are in our right mind, it is for you. 14For Christ's love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died. 15 And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again. -NIV
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:37 PM
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I'm not even remotely joking right now. I stand that Theism should be considered a form of psychosis.

the primary symptom that earns you a phychotic diagnosis is the concrete belief in something absolutley ridiculous and illogical (delusion).
People get locked up over seriously believeing that the Government is ran by aliens. People do not get locked up for believing that an invisable man that is watching over us who will judge us and send us to either heaven or hell and created the universe, ect.

The main similarity between the two is their credibility. There is as much evidence that God exists as there is evidence that aliens run the government. They are both technically possible, but are lunatic, farfetcht ideas.

Heavy delusion is the primary symptom of psychosis according to wikipedia.

that in mind, the following are, according to wikipedia again, the psycological definitions of "delusion":

certainty (held with absolute conviction)
incorrigibility (not changeable by compelling counterargument or proof to the contrary)
impossibility or falsity of content (implausible, bizarre or patently untrue)



Compare religious beliefs to the beliefs of people in lunatic asylums and it's clear they are one in the same. and as you are about respond and defend your belief, remeber the bit about
" incorrigibility (not changeable by compelling counterargument or proof to the contrary) "
You believe with certainty that God doesn't exist even though it's unknown and can't be proven. Do you suffer from psychosis?

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What are the symptoms of psychosis? What is the medical definition of it?
Juxtapose it onto theism and you might have a better point.
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You believe with certainty that God doesn't exist even though it's unknown and can't be proven. Do you suffer from psychosis?

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He did not, anywhere in his post say that. He said there is equally as much evidence that God exists as there is that aliens run the government. Why are people accused of lunacy "locked" away? Because they are a danger to society. Look at where religion has gotten us. Countless people have died in the name of God...and for what? Nothing has been gained, only lost. Theists are nothing more than a danger to society.
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Bronze, I suggest you take a brief introductory course in Parapsychology. One of the rules of it is "Nothing can be scientifically proven, nor can it be disproven."
There are branches of science that study the effects of prayer, meditation, speaking in tongues, psychic abilities, and other such things. There is some evidence, not enough to confirm it exist, but enough that it should be studied.

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I'd suggest you reword your question or read a little more carefully in those history books? That's not religion, it's human culture...not religion..to say that those things would not happen without religion would be false.
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I'd suggest you reword your question or read a little more carefully in those history books? That's not religion, it's human culture...not religion..to say that those things would not happen without religion would be false.
BUT there were still Muslim, and the contributions are very great ones.
If you want to overlook there religion, go ahead. Just make sure to overlook religion with such comments as:
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Not only do you seem to think religion is soley to blame for war, you have also just contradicted yourself by blaming religion for the bad, and ignoring it for the good.
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