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Old 05-19-2007, 08:00 AM
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Is our ultimate destiny predetermined? Do the choices we make in life have no effect on our future?
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Old 05-19-2007, 08:34 AM
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Is our ultimate destiny predetermined? Do the choices we make in life have no effect on our future?
No, our ultimate destiny is definitely not predetermined. God has given each of us the right to choose good over evil. While He has given us commandments, we are free to choose for ourselves whether to obey them or not. With agency (i.e. free will), however, comes accountability. Our choices will clearly impact our future, both here and in the next life.
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Old 05-19-2007, 08:41 AM
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No your unltimate destiny is not predetermined! Everyone has the right to chose what they do in life, how to make decisions etc. They may seek guidance for this, but ultimately it is up to the individual (free will). The choices we make in life does have an effect on our future.

Actually if life was predetermined, it would suggest that God didnt exist, as why would he make it so everyone has different religions some dont even have religions if he controlled our lives? The reason we have the different religions etc is free will - take that away and you can start to question whether there is a God or not!
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The Norns weave our fates, but that doesn't mean they aren't open for a little convincing here and there.
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The Norns weave our fates, but that doesn't mean they aren't open for a little convincing here and there.
could you possibly elaborate on this? i've never heard of the Norns before
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They do not say who they are.. I managed to find a small site of theirs on the web that said they were a non denominational group that spread Gods word in homes following the teaching of c.Taze. Russell.. but no mention of JW

I take it This is one of your sections keeping their light hidden.
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Old 05-21-2007, 01:00 AM
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Last week I had a leaflet text through the door from the L.H.M.M.
They do not say who they are.. I managed to find a small site of theirs on the web that said they were a non denominational group that spread Gods word in homes following the teaching of c.Taze. Russell.. but no mention of JW

I take it This is one of your sections keeping their light hidden.
seems it wasnt JW then.jehovahs witnesses are this official site
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No, our ultimate destiny is definitely not predetermined. God has given each of us the right to choose good over evil.....
Does God have knowledge of the future? If so, then I would say that our destiny is predetermined, unless of course God can see every single future possibility with every choice of free will that we make.
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