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Old 05-17-2007, 06:37 PM
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:53 PM
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I once heard the comedian Dave Allen tell this joke - it may be relevant.

After a long discussion between the Pope and an athiest, the Pope says "My son, you are like a blind man in a dark room searching for a black cat that isn't there." The athiest replied, "You know Your Holiness, you and I are not too different because you are like a blind man in a dark room searching for a black cat that isn't there, except that you've found it."
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:15 PM
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No god exists, and believing in any god concept is believing in a fairy tale.
this really misses the point of the thread. Nobody is asking "if" God exists or if you think He does. It is a hypothetical question. You are supposed to be considering the consequences of the OP not stating your personal beliefs...

man... the athiests all start convulsing when they see the words "god" and "exist" in the same sentence...

Just relax, it's a thought exercise.

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coming from a guy who was a coke addict....
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:17 PM
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coming from a guy who was a coke addict....
Then he should know, right?
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:18 PM
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I agree that if we did not know this to be so, then we could still choose to believe that God does exists, and this would not be a dishonest choice. But this is basically the scenario we are in now, so I assumed that this thread was referring to a scenario in which we did know.
ok. but in that case, I would have trouble using the word "believe" because if we all knew that God didn't exist, we could not also believe that He does exist.

Rather, we would have to pretend, and that would really get strange.
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If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him.
Sad, but true.
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you are assuming that the people would know God doesn't exist. It is entirely possible that in this scenario, God doesn't exist and nobody knows either way.
If he supports reality, it'd be hard to miss his absence.
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1.this really misses the point of the thread. Nobody is asking "if" God exists or if you think He does.
Just relax, it's a thought exercise.



2.coming from a guy who was a coke addict....
1. I knew somebody would get fired up.

2. Doesn't mean the statement isn't true.
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For the sake of discussion, let's assume God doesn't exist. Assuming that God doesn't exist, would there still be some benefit to believing in God?
Sunstone, that is really a dumb *** question. Would you like to rephrase?
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