Are equal rights for gays incompatible with religious liberty? (homosexuality, marriage) - Page 35

Fluffy · #**341** 05-20-2008, 06:52 PM

Equal rights for gays is necessary for religious liberty. If equal rights are not given then religions in which homosexuality is amoral are being prevented from exercising their beliefs. The same is not true the other way around.

Somkid · #**342** 05-20-2008, 07:23 PM

I don't think "gay" should be an issue. The issue is human rights that's it bottom line by classifying this or that is pure self serving ignorance. All people have the same rights, I don't know what else to say, if any of these rights are restricted to anyone it is a violation to all of us.

Green Gaia · #**343** 05-21-2008, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Somkid

I don't think "gay" should be an issue. The issue is human rights that's it bottom line by classifying this or that is pure self serving ignorance. All people have the same rights, I don't know what else to say, if any of these rights are restricted to anyone it is a violation to all of us.

Do you feel then that in order to achieve rights for all people that one or some religious groups' liberty will have to be restricted? Why or why not?

9-10ths_Penguin · #**344** 05-21-2008, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Green Gaia

Do you feel then that in order to achieve rights for all people that one or some religious groups' liberty will have to be restricted? Why or why not?

How do you define "religious groups' liberty"?

If it's a matter of ensuring that a religious person can do whatever he or she wants in the name of his or her faith, I'd think that other religions would place much greater restriction on that "liberty" than gay rights ever could.

3.14 · #**345** 05-21-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Green Gaia

Do you feel then that in order to achieve rights for all people that one or some religious groups' liberty will have to be restricted? Why or why not?

no people use religion as a exuse to withhold rights, cause they just don't want those people to have them. if you take away that right then people will take matters into there own hands, (beating the crap out of them)atleast with religion as exuse you know there stance on it

Autodidact · #**346** 05-21-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

Exactly right. Tolerance is what is needed. Unless both sides learn to be more tolerant of each other, change will be another generation away.

I agree. Gay people need to stop their opposition to heterosexual rights, including the right of heterosexuals to marry and serve in the military.

Autodidact · #**347** 05-21-2008, 11:15 AM

I really thought about it, and I cannot envision any way that allowing gay rights could possibly infringe on anyone else's religious liberty. For the person who voted "yes," can you make your argument please?

Green Gaia · #**348** 05-22-2008, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

How do you define "religious groups' liberty"?

I question was asked because some religious conservatives are claiming that treating gays like fully equal citizens and human beings is incompatible with the conservatives' religious liberty. That they should be allowed, because of their religion, to deny gay people equal rights.

logician · #**349** 05-22-2008, 06:55 AM

Does anyone really know the lifestyle of the supposed Jesus, from scripture, on the surface, it doesn't appear to be heterosexual.

View Poll Results: Are equal rights for gays incompatible with religious liberty?
Yes. Civil equality for gays must be restricted to preserve religious liberty.	1	1.85%
Yes. Religious liberty must be restricted to achieve civil equality for gays.	2	3.70%
Perhaps occasional compromises are needed, but there is no fundamental incompatibility.	8	14.81%
No more so than religious liberty is incompatible with any other form of civil rights.	43	79.63%
Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll