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Old 03-12-2007, 09:51 PM
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“God has no religion.” –Mahatma Gandhi


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>Does God need religion?

No.

But IMHO we do!

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Religion , Just What Is Its Purpose ? Who Is ResponsibleFor The Many Religions That Have Spead Across The Planet ? Each Claining That The All Powerful . By WhatEver Name They Call Him Or Her , It Is In Their Specific Denomination Or Sect , When The Question Should Be If EveryThing Has A Beginning , Does God Also Have A Beginning ? If EveryThing Has A Purpose , Does God Also Have A Purpose ?


When You Say '' Religion '' What You're Really Saying '' Is God Adherence '' Or God's Belief. If You Do Not Believe In God , You Are Referred To As ; A - Thehos - Atheist , Which Really Is A - '' Against '' And Thehos - '' God '' , In The Greek Language. So The Word '' A '' Means - '' Against '' And '' Thehos '' - Means . '' Those Beings '' , So You Get '' Against God '' Now , Let Take A LQQk At What All The Three Major Religions , Judaism , Christianity And Islam Claims ;


* God Is All Powerful
* God Is All Knowing
* God Can Do Any And EveryThing
* God Is EveryWhere At All Times
And That The Predestination Of All Things . Good And Evil Are Controlled By God . That Would Mean That EveryThing That Happens. God Already '' Knows '' Its Going To Happen . EveryThing That AnyBody And EveryBody Does . God Already Knew That . They Were Going To Do It . If God Knows EveryThing That Happen Before It

Happen . Then There Is Absolutely No Need For Things To Happen ! If God Knows When YourAre In The Womb Of Your Mother . Your Destination , Your Every Thought And Emotion ; And He Judges You By Your Intentions , MoreSo Than Your Actions . Then There Is No Need For A Holy Day , Or A Holiday , Or A Sabbath . The Word Sabbath In Aramic ( Hebrew ) Is Shabat And In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Is Sabtu . There Is No Need For Any Form Of Prayer , Worship , Or Meditation , Nor Fasting ,


Nor Charitity , Or Tidings . In Fact , There Would Be No Need For Ceremonies , Or Church , Synagogue , Or Mosque Gatherings ; Because God Already Knows Who Will Attend , What They Will Feel , Whether They Are Sincere Or Not . . And He Knows What The Preacher OrThe Rabbi Or The Imaam Is Feeling And Thinking In His Or Her Heart ; And It Makes All Of This Obsolete . Thus Religion In Itself , If All The Above Is True , It Is A Tool Used To Enforce Some Kind Of Spell To Keep Human Being Unconscious Of The Divine Within Themselves , That Is Responsible


For Everything That Happen AroundAnd To Them . For, If Man Is Created In The Image And After The Likeness Of God , Genesis 1 ; 26 , Then EveryThing That Man Does God Does At The Exact Same Moment . Meaning . If God Created Man In His Image Which Is The Aramic / Hebrew Word - Tselem . Which Means''' Resemblance , Semblance '' This Would Mean That Man Is Like God And God Is Like Man In All Manners And This Would Be Up And Above Commentarie And Interpretation By Man . If We Read The Exact Words Of God . Then You Have '' .... After Our Likeness '' This Is The Aramic / Hebrew Word - Demuwth Which Means '' To Be Like SomeOne

, Or SomeThing , To Resemble , To Be Compared To '' Again , This Would Mean That Man LQQks Exactly Like God . And If God Created Man In His Likeness , Then Man Does EveryThing Exactly Alike , And At The Same Time As God . It's Also Mentioned In The Koran 59 ; 24 , And I Quote , He is Allah, the Creator, the Evolver, the Bestower of Forms (or Colours). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names: whatever is in the heavens and on earth, doth declare His Praises and Glory: and He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise. ;... Al Musawwiru Which Means '' The Fashioner'' In The Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Language Which Is From This Root Word Sawwara Which Many Other Word Variation Are Derived In The Koran 59 ; 24 .. The Word


Used To Denote'' He Fashions '' Is Yusawwiru . It Is From The Root Word Saara Which Means '' He Became '' When It Is Used In The Second Form Of The Verb . Saara. You Get Sawwara From The Word Yusawwiru . It Is From The Root Word Saara Which Means '' He Became '' When It Is Used In The Second Form Of The Verb . Saara . You Get Sawwara From The Word Yusawwiru . The Second Form Of The Verb Sawwara Means '' To Form . Shape, Mold Fashion , Create , Darw , Sketch ; To Illustrate ( With Drawing Or Pictures ) ; To Make A Picture , To Photograph ; To Represent , Portray '' In Genesis 2 ; 7 , And I Quote , the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the


man became a living being. ;.... You See The Word Saara Being Used Here It Carries The Meaning '' He Became In A State , Condition , Of Doing Such A Thing '' This Is The Same Word Yatsar Found In Genesis 2 ; 7 , For '' Formed Man '' Which Comes From The Root Word Yatsar '' To Mold Into A Form ; Especially As A Potter ; To Determine , Earthen , Fashion , Form , Frame , Make , Potter , Purpose ,
Genesis 2 ; 7 , And I Quote , the LORD God formed the man [5] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. ;... When God Was Createing Man , Man Had To Be Createing God , If It Is True , What The Bible Says '' In His Likeness '' Or Like Him Genesis 1; 26 , And I


Quote Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." ;... Then Are They In Need Of Each Other ?
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TehuTi, are you saying that religion is irrelevant because God already knows what we are thinking? If we do not learn about God and God’s rules then we can be so taken up with the material world and become totally body-conscious. We will forget our true nature which is spirit. We will have no time for God. That is why God gave us divine knowledge through the saints and sages and why he sent prophets throughout time. If we do not have reminders about God then we will have no time for God. Think about it. If God is not on our minds, we will only call on God when we have problems and this should not be so. We should also thank God everyday for life. First thing in the morning we should thank God for letting us live to see another day. Many people did not get up this morning.
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TehuTi, are you saying that religion is irrelevant because God already knows what we are thinking? If we do not learn about God and God’s rules then we can be so taken up with the material world and become totally body-conscious. We will forget our true nature which is spirit. We will have no time for God. That is why God gave us divine knowledge through the saints and sages and why he sent prophets throughout time. If we do not have reminders about God then we will have no time for God. Think about it. If God is not on our minds, we will only call on God when we have problems and this should not be so. We should also thank God everyday for life. First thing in the morning we should thank God for letting us live to see another day. Many people did not get up this morning.



OverStand Something Ok ( I Mean No Dis-respect Towards You Ok ) You And I Both Know 85% Of People Only Call On God / Creator By WhatEver Name You Call Him / Her When The Want Something From Him / Her , Some Don't Even Pray Nor Know Anything About Meditation . And They Only Do These Thing When They Go To There House Of Worship , And Most Are Close During The Week . Plus They Know Nothing Of There Holy Book's ( They Only Accept What They Are Told To Believe / Accept ) . They Are Against Anyone Who Dosen't Believe As They Do ( And This Is The Real Deal ) . When You Ask Them A Question About There Belief's And If You Don't Accept There Answer ( They Get Pisss Etc Etc ) They Don't Know Nothing Because They Are Not Allow To Question There Teacher / Minister / Iman's / .

When I Ask The Question Does Religion Breeds ??? ( Yes / No ) How Many Of Them Show These Attrbutes .
Racism
Hatred
Separation
Ignorance
Wars
Jealousy
JudgeMetal =My God Is Better Then Your God .

Be Truthful

Religion Is Practice , When It Should Be Away Of Life , Not Something You Put On And Take Off Like A Coat .

Another Reson Why Most People Of Religion Know Nothing Of There Holy Book's Because Of The Many Many Denomination / Sect's , And All Of Them Teach Something Diffrent , They Never Research Anything On They Own .

Again I Mean No Disrespect Towards You Ok .

Now Watch How Many Of Them Try To Prove What I'm Saying Is Wrong LOLOLOLOL
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GOD - Is Composed Of The Initials Of Three ( 3 ) Words ; Which Celebrate Human Attributes Only .
1 . Gumar - Meaning Wisdom
2 . Oz ( or UZ ) - Meaning Strength
3 . Dabar - Meaning Beauty
Or you could turn them around the other way, to find that 'dog' apparently celebrates exactly the same three human attributes. My dog will be pleased...though I think the whole wisdom thing is a bit of a stretch as he's really not too bright.
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OverStand Something Ok ( I Mean No Dis-respect Towards You Ok ) You And I Both Know 85% Of People Only Call On God / Creator By WhatEver Name You Call Him / Her When The Want Something From Him / Her , Some Don't Even Pray Nor Know Anything About Meditation . And They Only Do These Thing When They Go To There House Of Worship , And Most Are Close During The Week . Plus They Know Nothing Of There Holy Book's ( They Only Accept What They Are Told To Believe / Accept ) . They Are Against Anyone Who Dosen't Believe As They Do ( And This Is The Real Deal ) . When You Ask Them A Question About There Belief's And If You Don't Accept There Answer ( They Get Pisss Etc Etc ) They Don't Know Nothing Because They Are Not Allow To Question There Teacher / Minister / Iman's / .

When I Ask The Question Does Religion Breeds ??? ( Yes / No ) How Many Of Them Show These Attrbutes .
Racism
Hatred
Separation
Ignorance
Wars
Jealousy
JudgeMetal =My God Is Better Then Your God .

Be Truthful

Religion Is Practice , When It Should Be Away Of Life , Not Something You Put On And Take Off Like A Coat .

Another Reson Why Most People Of Religion Know Nothing Of There Holy Book's Because Of The Many Many Denomination / Sect's , And All Of Them Teach Something Diffrent , They Never Research Anything On They Own .

Again I Mean No Disrespect Towards You Ok .

Now Watch How Many Of Them Try To Prove What I'm Saying Is Wrong LOLOLOLOL
TehuTi, I do not feel disrespected. It is true that religion is a practice. To me it is a way of life. It is true that many people feel that their religion is the only way to God. However, not everyone is like that. There are many people on RF who are open about all religions. If you real think about it, it is not really religious teachings that make people like that, it is really human ego. Ego which makes people think that – my way is better than yours. Therefore, the fault is with the person who thinks like this, not religion itself. I agree that many people have this ego and I am not a Saint, but I try to see God in all religions. Many people on RF are very open-minded. Just give them a chance and you will see.
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