Religious Education Forum  

Welcome to Religious Forums
Welcome Guest to ReligiousForums.com . You are currently not registered. When you become registered you will be able to interact with our large base of already registered users discussing topics. Some annoying Ads will also disappear when you register. Registering doesn't cost a thing and only takes a few seconds. We provide areas to chat and debate all World Religions. Please go to our register page!

Home Who's Online Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Religious Education Forum / Religious Topics / Religious Debates / General Religious Debates
Sitemap Popular RF Forums REGISTER Search Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-12-2007, 11:48 AM
Mike182's Avatar
Mike182 Offline
Religion: Gay Pagan
Title:Flaming Queer
Prolific Poster Award:  - Issue reason: 10,000 posts! Tolerance Award:  - Issue reason: Your peers have nominated you for the tolerance award, and it's well deserved. Kindness Award:  - Issue reason: Your peers have nominated you for the kindness award, and it's well deserved. Humor Award:  - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Lancaster, UK!
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,094
Frubals: 1597103
Mike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal Whore
Mike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal Whore
Mike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal Whore
Default can a non Buddhist ever fully understand Buddhism?

well, can they?
__________________
Eddie!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-12-2007, 11:50 AM
Pardus's Avatar
Pardus Offline
Religion: Pantheist
Title:Proud to be a Sinner.
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sydney AU
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,383
Frubals: 44541
Pardus has much to be proud ofPardus has much to be proud of
Pardus has much to be proud ofPardus has much to be proud ofPardus has much to be proud ofPardus has much to be proud ofPardus has much to be proud ofPardus has much to be proud of
Default

Depends on how open-minded they are.
__________________
Break free from the cave!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-12-2007, 11:58 AM
Engyo's Avatar
Engyo Offline
Religion: Buddhist
Title:Prince of Dorkness!
Ambassador Award: Award designated for members who show great knowledge of their religion. - Issue reason: This was awarded to you by your peers and is well deserved. 
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Houston TX
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,092
Frubals: 620425
Engyo thinks frubals grow on trees
Engyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on trees
Engyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on treesEngyo thinks frubals grow on trees
Default

Mike -

Of course the teachings of Buddhism can be understood intellectually. That does not mean that they can be fully grasped (intellectually, emotionally, and in terms of changing one's life) without putting them into practice. One could certainly put them into practice without "believing" in Buddhism, of course. That is how I began my practice. Does such a person qualify as a non-Buddhist per the OP? I don't rightly know.

I also know that I have only practiced a very small portion of all the possible Buddhist practices. I doubt that anyone has practiced all of them, ever. So, much of my knowledge of Buddhism is knowledge and not experience. However, I can understand certain things through having experienced something similar; possibly a practice with a similar goal to the one in question, for example.

So, like most such questions, we are down to definitions: what exactly is meant by "fully understand", and what exactly is meant by "non-Buddhist".

Sorry for being long-winded here, but I didn't think an off-the-cuff answer did the question justice.
__________________
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." Bertrand Russell
Namaste, Engyo
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-12-2007, 03:24 PM
Ozzie's Avatar
Ozzie Offline
Religion: Buddhist blindsight
Title:Same path not footprint.
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,319
Frubals: 305276
Ozzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfast
Ozzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfastOzzie eats frubals for breakfast
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike182
well, can they?
Good question! That depends how much time you want to spend on it and which particular direction you head out on. Much of Buddhism is belief based like any other religion so it is an abstract thing. Beyond Buddhist beliefs however, I think there is a kernel in that cuts across all sects much like the personage of Jesus cuts through Christian sects.

So no, a Buddhist cannot know all of Buddhist belief for the reasons Engyo stated (given enough time maybe). But whatever path is chosen may allow progression towards the kernel of Buddhist teachings which is beyond sectarian Belief IMO. The same goes for Christianity and any other major religion. Knowing the kernel is to know Buddhism IMO.

This position leads onto speculation whether all religions have the same kernel. Well, maybe they do. What do others think?
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads


Similar Threads


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:50 PM.


© 2008 Advameg, Inc.

SEO by vBSEO ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.