Anti-Zionism? (Israel, Jewish, heaven, Orthodox, reconstructionist)

[Doktormartini]

Hey, I know there are quite a few Jews on here, but I was wondering if any of the Jews here are actually against Zionism and the illegal occupation of Palestine? I'm not a Jew, but I am! There are plenty of Jews, even orthodox, that are against Zionism!
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/
http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

Thanks for you replies!

[Random]

I'd be interested to see who responds to this. There was one poster, possibly Jewscout was his name, who classified himself as a Zionist I think. I do not know of any Jews on RF against it.

[Comprehend]

I would suggest that if you want to call Israel an illegal occupation, that you should move this to the debate forum so we can talk about it.

[astarath]

I am not jewish but close to I adhere to the teachings of the To'rah. I am opposed to the occupation because of the method in which it transpired. Using violence and hatred instead of love is contradictory to the goal. And so the jewish people have been tricked by Shatan into taking worldly treasures (their state) in place of their heavenly treasures

[standing_on_one_foot]

Sweet! Always love the loaded questions.

But, speaking for myself, I am not opposed to Israel's existance. I'm opposed to some of their policies, which is very different.

But I have met some Jews who are opposed to Israel in general. Not surprising, really...Jews having different opinions. I know there are a lot who are opposed not so much to Israel as to a secular or semi-secular Israel.

I'm somewhat curious as to what your feelings are about living in the US, then?

[Doktormartini]

Originally Posted by standing_on_one_foot

Sweet! Always love the loaded questions.

But, speaking for myself, I am not opposed to Israel's existance. I'm opposed to some of their policies, which is very different.

But I have met some Jews who are opposed to Israel in general. Not surprising, really...Jews having different opinions. I know there are a lot who are opposed not so much to Israel as to a secular or semi-secular Israel.

I'm somewhat curious as to what your feelings are about living in the US, then?

Actually I don't really like the US at this point in time. When I get older I plan on moving somewhere (preferably Iceland).

[Ody]

Originally Posted by astarath

I am not jewish but close to I adhere to the teachings of the To'rah.

Christian belief of the Trinity and Moshiach goes against the Torah.

[Ody]

Originally Posted by Doktormartini

Hey, I know there are quite a few Jews on here, but I was wondering if any of the Jews here are actually against Zionism and the illegal occupation of Palestine?

Two Jews, 80 opinions ... or something along that line the joke goes.

I think you should search out the Gerrer opposition to such publications,the same with the Lubavitcher and non chassidic sources.

[astarath]

Indeed that would be the slight bit that I differ on I feel that an annointed one has already come and that he was the son of god however I believe he came to call the nation back to the teachings of the To'rah and eliminate the cultural inadequecies that had been added to the tenets of Yahweh. So I follow the practices of the Judaic faith, yet I believe it is because Yahweh's son called me to do so.

[standing_on_one_foot]

Originally Posted by Doktormartini

Actually I don't really like the US at this point in time. When I get older I plan on moving somewhere (preferably Iceland).

Fair enough. Consistency is a good thing.