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Old 01-22-2007, 05:01 AM
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Smile True Esoteric Christianity redeems churchianity

True Esoteric Christianity redeems churchianity

Please do not mix the exoteric (outer) teachings of the current catholic/evangelic church (St Paul) with the esoteric (inner) teachings of the current christian gnostic, theosophic and mystic community (St John).

The concept of the three big religion, Christianity, Judaism and Islam is exoteric, because the perception of God is outside ourselves.

The christian esoteric teachings exists as gnostic, theosophic and mystic communities like the Universal White Brotherhood (Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov, Peter Deunov ) which perceive God inside ourselves.

In Judaism the esoteric teaching is the kabbala.

In Islam the esoteric teaching is sufism.

As you can see, true christianity is not yet fully known to the mass, but soon will be. Therefore the current pope, Pat Robertson and other sadly mislead clerics are typically for exoteric christianity.

Its only a question of time until exoteric christianity will be history, redeemed by Esoteric Christianity.

That means according Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov:

When love comes, there will be no more religion

«It is when one has no more love that laws and rules are needed; and even at this moment, laws and rules do not serve in much. As long as there is no love, there will be religions which will never be able to bring the human beings towards God. But when love will come, there will be no more religion. Religion will become internal and will show itself under shape of kindness, brilliance, sacrifice, sweetness and light. It is when love left the humanity that religion has come to compensate for it. But when love will come, religion will fade because it will have entered again the heart of the man.»

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Old 01-22-2007, 05:05 AM
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I guess I am a Christian who accepts the mystic part of my Faith, and values them. To my way of thinking, this is the same difference as the difference between Faith and spirituality.
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Old 01-22-2007, 05:12 AM
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Therefore the current pope, Pat Robertson and other sadly mislead clerics are typically for exoteric christianity.
LOL for a second while I was reading that I thought you were saying Pat Robertson was the current Pope LOL

I disagree anyways Jesus did not teach gnosticism
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LOL for a second while I was reading that I thought you were saying Pat Robertson was the current Pope LOL

I disagree anyways Jesus did not teach gnosticism
Quite. And there's plenty of mysticism in Christianity without having to go off to some (presumably by the names) Russian heretics. Of course, not all understandings of Christianity emphasise the mystical to so great a degree as we do, but gnosticism is certainly not Christian. It's just pre-Christian paganism that absorbed certain Christian motifs.

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There seems to be a misconception here, I am what you might call a fundamentalist Christian but to say that I believe God is merely exoteric is false and unbiblical, when someone is born again things change:

God the Spirit dwells in us:
Jn 14v17: Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Rom 8v9: But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Clearly God dwells in born again believers by His Spirit, and is also in Heaven in the person of the Father and the Son:
Col 3v1: If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Col 3v2: Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.

Acts 7v55: But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
Acts 7v56: And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.


I don't know about the Pope but i'm sure this is what Pat Robertson would believe too, though I wouldn't be wholly suprised if he didn't to be truthful.
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