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Old 01-17-2007, 09:52 PM
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Do all muslims think this way or was this just an extremist sect of muslims? Kind of like the fire and brimstoners of the Christians. Also another that is bugging the hell out of me. Why can’t people show pictures of Muhammad? I think that it very ridiculous if that is the case. Someone please explain…
Oh, I dunno *what* I was thinking!

Preach, there's a painting of Muhammad in the U.S. Supreme Court, as part of a gallery of people who made significant contributions to jurisprudence.

Now obviously the intent is to *honor* Muhammad. But to Muslims, it's still a no-no to have images of Muhammad. Muslims in this country have been trying for years, through peaceful means and the arts of persuasion, to have that picture removed. Something else could replace it -- a really beautiful embossed copoy of the Quran would do nicely.

No one has threatened to blow anything up, rioted in the streets, or burned down anyone's embassy over that picture.

Which proves rather definitively that it isn't some demand in Islam that Muslims go nutzo just because there's an image of Muhammad somewhere.

For the record, it's also against my religion to make images of our founders, the Bab and Baha'u'llah. It's also a no no to depict them in plays and movies or anything of that sort.

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Old 01-17-2007, 09:54 PM
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Well he was is on the "no-fly list" and I don't think anyone is thinking of reconsidering. I'm not sure he it would be that he was roped into anything. Someone asked and he answered. He didn't say, "I'll get back with you, or I wouldnt' be qualified to answer". I suppose as a new convert maybe he
was a bit more eager and so on than some more regular guy would be.
He might even regret it a bit.

BTW, Rushdie was interviewed by Bill Moyers, and he was fascinating.

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Old 01-17-2007, 10:30 PM
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Oh, I remember the brouhaha over his plane being redirected to Canada. I didn't realize he was on a no-fly list and why.

Uh...how was he roped into signing the fatwa?
Khomeini asked thim personally through his father-in-law who is an Imam in England. I wouldn't say that was an undeniable request, but it was probably somewhat like the Godfather asking for a little respect or a favor done for a favor done.

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This could be an advantage, because you will never have to endure ponderous Baha'i religious movies around our holy days.
You do have a point there..lol

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I have had this question for years. Ever since I saw Cat Stevens go from a peace loving hippie to a fanatical idiot stating that because someone said something about Muhammad, he should die. I believe the exact comment was “He who defames the prophet must die”. Or something along those lines. Anyway, can someone who knows about Islamic belief tell me what was the deal.

Do all muslims think this way or was this just an extremist sect of muslims?
No this is not an extremist idea. This is a concept that the companions had and at many times almost carried out. Just for someone speaking disrespectfully towards him. Many would have killed the individual with no hesitation. This is out of the sheer love they had for Islam and the messneger. If someone respected your mother, father or children really bad. Like let us just say we live in a time where people can be killed over differences or scirmishes.

So in that time to defend someone to the death is a display of love and admiration. Now should we kill people today for this. No, I do not think so. For times are a little different now. People now speak out of ignorance when then it was hatred. So it should be looked at different we treat people of ignorance a little different then those who have hatred towards Islam or the Messenger or Allah. The same goes for Allah.

But remember in an Islamic state these could very well be law and have to be abided by. But since there is no government that upholds true sharia it cannot be applied.

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Kind of like the fire and brimstoners of the Christians. Also another that is bugging the hell out of me. Why can’t people show pictures of Muhammad? I think that it very ridiculous if that is the case. Someone please explain…
The Prophet forbid it because he did not want people worshipping him like they did with other prophets and Messengeres. That is how it starts with just a picture of someone. We have the story in the hadiths about the people just before Nuh when this concept of worshipping righteous people was first introduced.
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why can't people respect the wishes of Muslims?

you know people got all in a tizzy about the "elephant dung madonna" and the "cusafix upsidedown in a jar of urine" too. The artists recieved death threats and so on.

a little respect goes a long way.

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Khomeini asked thim personally through his father-in-law who is an Imam in England. I wouldn't say that was an undeniable request, but it was probably somewhat like the Godfather asking for a little respect or a favor done for a favor done.
Oh, that would explain a lot. People will do many things for family that they wouldn't do for someone unrelated.
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You do have a point there..lol

What is your religion?
Baha'i, of course.

I used to list it as such, but due to a running joke in some threads here I changed it on a lark one evening when I was feeling exceptionally silly.

Obviously, I don't live in a FEMA Death Camp either, though at times traffic on I-285 may seem like that.
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