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Old 01-04-2007, 07:50 PM
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Heard of it, never seen it though.
Give it time... you will
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Islam does frown upon extramarital or premarital sex. This does effectively make marriage a must. One hadith has it that marriage is half the religion (I'm paraphrasing). Allah does speak much about the enjoining of marriage on people. In quran it is spoken highly of as a thing to be desired and taken seriously.

223. Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth (have sexual relations with your wives in any manner as long as it is in the vagina and not in the anus), when or how you will, and send (good deeds, or ask Allâh to bestow upon you pious offspring) before you for your ownselves. And fear Allâh, and know that you are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give good tidings to the believers (O Muhammad SAW). (baqarah)


21. And among His Signs is this, that He created for you wives from among yourselves, that you may find repose in them, and He has put between you affection and mercy. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who reflect. (ar-room)


187. It is made lawful for you to have sexual relations with your wives on the night of As-Saum (the fasts). They are Lîbas [i.e. body cover, or screen, or Sakan, (i.e. you enjoy the pleasure of living with her - as in Verse 7:189) Tafsir At-Tabarî], for you and you are the same for them. Allâh knows that you used to deceive yourselves, so He turned to you (accepted your repentance) and forgave you. So now have sexual relations with them and seek that which Allâh has ordained for you (offspring), and eat and drink until the white thread (light) of dawn appears to you distinct from the black thread (darkness of night), then complete your Saum (fast) till the nightfall. And do not have sexual relations with them (your wives) while you are in I'tikâf (i.e. confining oneself in a mosque for prayers and invocations leaving the worldly activities) in the mosques. These are the limits (set) by Allâh, so approach them not. Thus does Allâh make clear His Ayât (proofs, evidences, lessons, signs, revelations, verses, laws, legal and illegal things, Allâh's set limits, orders, etc.) to mankind that they may become Al-Muttaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2). (baqarah)


(Note: In this last ayat Allah is speaking of a specific event. When Ramadan was first ordained, sex was forbidden the whole month. However a month is a long time to go without sex, so some of the sahabah used to have sex anyway. This is when Allah clarified that the prohibition of sexual activity was specific to fasting hours only, not the entire month. Then the verse goes on to say when certain types of worship are going on, then sex is porhibited. It names a thing called itikaf. Itikaf is seclusion in the masjid. Sex is obviously not allowed in the place of worship, despite the sex itself being an act of worship. Sex between a married couple is considered sadaqah.)


Abu Dharr reported: some of the people from among the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) said to him: Messenger of Allah, the rich have taken away reward. They observe prayer as we do; they keep the fasts as we keep, and they give Sadaqa out of their surplus riches. Upon this he (the Holy Prophet) said: Has Allah not prescribed for you (a course) by following which you can (also) do sadaqa? In every declaration of the glorification of Allah (i. e. saying Subhan Allah) there is a Sadaqa, and every Takbir (i. e. saying Allah-O-Akbar) is a sadaqa, and every praise of His (saying al-Hamdu Lillah) is a Sadaqa and every declaration that He is One (La illha ill-Allah) is a sadaqa, and enjoining of good is a sadaqa, and forbidding of that which is evil is a Sadaqa, and in man's sexual Intercourse (with his wife, ) there is a Sadaqa. They (the Companions) said: Messenger of Allah, is there reward for him who satisfies his sexual passion among us? He said: Tell me, if he were to devote it to something forbidden, would it not be a sin on his part? Similarly, if he were to devote it to something lawful, he should have a reward

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Who would want a virgin?? I've been down that road before & it's not big deal.
Really! I prefer mine already well trained, thankyouverymuch.
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If there is no sex in heaven, why do so many religions have so many rules governing it here , now on earth. You would think god would want you to get it out of your system now.
Because sometimes when people mess around, they do really dumb things like shoot people?
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I think most religions major on sex as sinful. St.Paul seemd to think little of women and even less of sex.

I think if God had thought sex and sexuality to be a sin , he would have separated the pleasure and the reproductive process. God never tempts us.

In my view sex is never the sin; the sin is always about hurt to others.
mutual pleasure in sex that hurts no one in any way, is not sinful.
That's because he never had good sex! God never temps us??? IF that was so then why didn't he make all people look the same? Besides you won;t have tim for sex in acording to the bible, you'll be too busy worshipping him forever & ever!
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If it's all the same to you ,I won't hold my breath.

And for the kids , just put a lock on your bedroom door.
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Because sometimes when people mess around, they do really dumb things like shoot people?
You lost me again Booko.
Unless your being extremely kinky.
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You lost me again Booko.
Unless your being extremely kinky.
You said something about religions putting limits on sex, and I thought about the double murder next door to my husband's house. Guy comes home finds wife in bed with some other guy. Shoots other guy. Wife shoots husband. Kids have no parents now.

It would've saved a heckuva mess if they'd just kept it zipped.


Limitations on sex are not entirely unreasonable. People do get rather sensitive about who's doing what with their significant other.
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