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Old 01-12-2007, 08:46 AM
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This is the thing that makes the JW's special and distinctive from all other groups. This is their claim to "remnancy." If they can claim that they are the ones who possess the "red phone to God," then they can lay claim that they are the "remnant of the true faithful."

Personally, I feel that Christ was far more concerned about how we live out our faith today, than he was about when the end times might come about. I guess that makes me "not part of the true remnant..."
You and me both.

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Old 01-12-2007, 08:48 AM
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Personally, I feel that Christ was far more concerned about how we live out our faith today, than he was about when the end times might come about. I guess that makes me "not part of the true remnant..."
In other words, "the 'Faith' is one of the great heresies of the Faith."
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:40 AM
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In other words, "the 'Faith' is a heresies of the Faith."
Could you pleeze explain that to my tiny little brain? That statement really bothers me, and it bothers me that it bothers me, because you and I usually agree on stuff. Define both the first instance of "the 'Faith'" and the second instance of "the Faith," as you mean them in that statement. Use little words. Speak slowly and distinctly, for I am a Bear of Very Little Brain, for some reason.
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:00 PM
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Since it just appears to be a lot of preaching going on by the OP - let's liven this debate up. Here was a common scene from my childhood when I'd often play in the foyer of the home:

"Knock, Knock" - - - -

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"Good They're Gone"
LOL ,yes i have been there and done that and worn the teashirt, but now i have been enlightened, Jehovah searches out those who he wants.
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:11 PM
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This is clearly not how the dynamics of spiritual knowledge works, from a Christian perspective. Its basis is blatantly gnostic, which is one of the great heresies of the Faith.
matthew 24;45-47 Jesus is feeding the faithful and they inturn are feeding others very bible based indeed
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:23 PM
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If Jesus didn't come the first time, he sure can't come back the second.

We've been getting this gloom and doom end-of-the-world BS for centuries, and nothing ever happens. When are the religious fundies going to catch on?
Jesus will never come back to earth again , but his PRESENCE (parousia) in kingdom power has been here since 1914 and this is GOODNEWS , not doom and gloom .the end of manmade goverments will happen but the end of the planet is not a bible teaching. the end of a system of things is what the bible teaches
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:29 PM
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Jesus will never come back to earth again , but his PRESENCE (parousia) in kingdom power has been here since 1914 and this is GOODNEWS , not doom and gloom .the end of manmade goverments will happen but the end of the planet is not a bible teaching. the end of a system of things is what the bible teaches
Can you tell us the significance of 1914?
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In other words, "the 'Faith' is a heresies of the Faith."
I don't get this either.
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Alas, I have an atypically appropriate reply for this thread. And there is that New Year's resolution I made...

32"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. (Mark 13)
the great day of Jehovah is near ,that is for sure , and as the bible tells us only the most high Jehovah himself knows that day. even Jesus does not know the day or the hour, but make no mistake about it he is waiting to go into action , but first the Goodnews of the established heavenly kingdom has to be made known Daniel 2;44And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come. matthew 24;14
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