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Old 01-02-2007, 11:23 AM
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There isn't anything other then LDS Doctrine.



Porkchop, I believe the Bible to be the Word of God, as far as it is translated correctly. This means, I believe that the Bible is really the Word of God, but parts of it have been mistranslated and left out. So this could have been in there, or maybe not. It is LDS doctrine as far as I'm concerened.
Thanks for clarifying that for me, Becky. I would have to disagree with you on that one, but thats going off topic and im sure there have been several debates on it.
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:24 AM
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Heaven is very permenant....are you talking about being in the state of Heaven?
I meant in relation to your question about whether Hell is permenant.

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Satan was at was an angel who of course defied God's word and was kicked from heaven.......So that would seem to say that heaven could also not be permenant.
Lucifer was cast out of Heaven by God, what's to stop him from tossing out anyone else, I guess is what I'm going for...
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:25 AM
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If I were a theist, I would have a difficult time believing hell was permanent. Then notion that a loving deity would condemn people to eternal torment seems rather strange.
My thoughts exactly, that's why I believe the time spent in hell is not permenant, but hell is a permenant place.
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:10 PM
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Only if you’re a “chick” or a princess, then you only have to wait till some impatient lover comes to rescue you. Someday I would like to see it performed the other way around.
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:26 PM
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Lucifer was cast out of Heaven by God, what's to stop him from tossing out anyone else, I guess is what I'm going for...
He won't, God has promised that He wouldn't. That's what to keep Him. God always keeps His promises.
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:27 PM
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Thanks for clarifying that for me, Becky. I would have to disagree with you on that one, but thats going off topic and im sure there have been several debates on it.
There has been much a debate about it.
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Then notion that a loving deity would condemn people to eternal torment seems rather strange.
Absolutely, and that's putting it mildly. "Evil" comes to mind for me.
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The Bible says they the devil and his angels are cast into the "lake of fire" to be in eternal torment. (Rev. 20:10).
Excellent scripture which proves Hell is an eternal place of torment reserved only for Satan and his angels.

No one born into this life will spend an eternity in Hell, except Satan and His angels, but many will spend time in Hell if they don't allow Jesus Christ's sacrafice to take affect in their lives by repenting and believing in Him and His teachings.
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