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Old 01-26-2007, 12:26 PM
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I don't, and won't pretend to, know about what the koran say's about the subject of sin in heaven but as far as I can find, and not saying that it isn't there, in the KJV no where does it state what you have suggested in this, your last post. Please show me your scriptural proof or is this just your understading?
[43] And We shall remove from their hearts any lurking sense of injury - beneath them will be rivers flowing - and they shall say: "Praise be to Allah, Who hath guided us to this (felicity): never could we have found guidance, had it not been for the guidance of Allah: indeed it was the truth that the Messengers of our Lord brought unto us." And they shall hear the cry: "Behold! the Garden before you! ye have been made its inheritors, for your deeds (of righteousness)." (Quran 7:43)

[47] And We shall remove from their hearts any lurking sense of injury: (they will be) brothers (joyfully) facing each other on thrones (of dignity). (Quran 15:47)

Prophet Mohammed said that the Muslims will be purefied before entering to heaven, that's after they deal with each other and to clean and solve any problems they have in this earthly life.
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Old 01-26-2007, 05:02 PM
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[43] And We shall remove from their hearts any lurking sense of injury - beneath them will be rivers flowing - and they shall say: "Praise be to Allah, Who hath guided us to this (felicity): never could we have found guidance, had it not been for the guidance of Allah: indeed it was the truth that the Messengers of our Lord brought unto us." And they shall hear the cry: "Behold! the Garden before you! ye have been made its inheritors, for your deeds (of righteousness)." (Quran 7:43)

[47] And We shall remove from their hearts any lurking sense of injury: (they will be) brothers (joyfully) facing each other on thrones (of dignity). (Quran 15:47)

Prophet Mohammed said that the Muslims will be purefied before entering to heaven, that's after they deal with each other and to clean and solve any problems they have in this earthly life.
I have to apologize as I should have been more clear as to the "Scripture" I was reffering to which, of course, would be the KJV. I do not follow that of the koran and, as I do respect your decision as to whatever you choose to follow, I can't accept it as truth. If you feel the same about the KJV then I will understand.
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the only ones who are going to heaven are a little flock (144,000)
"Have no fear, little flock, because your Father has approved of giving you the kingdom."—LUKE 12:32.
And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. revelation 14;1
but the rest of us have the chance to inherit the earth .
Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.matthew 5;5



But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,



And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace psalm 37;11
these 144,000 will be going to heaven for a purpose, and the purpose is to serve as kings and priests with Jesus christ in the heavenly kingdom goverment .Daniel 2;44
(Revelation 5:10) and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth."

(Revelation 20:6) Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years.
I've heard that the JW version of heaven isn't very fun. That the 144000 will spend all eternity praising God and doing little else. Is that true? Paradise sounds like a better deal to me.
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Paradise is a place, where whatever you want to do is available...
A reward for being patient in your life...

Keep imagining everything you want to do, anything, or every desire you want to fullfill....compared to what God prepared for us, this is all nothing...

Nothing is sinfull in the paradise....if you have an inner desire to kill people, you are supplied instantly with many people so that you can kill anyone you want (hehehe...how sick will be this!! )

But everything is legal in paradise..
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:31 PM
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I have to apologize as I should have been more clear as to the "Scripture" I was reffering to which, of course, would be the KJV. I do not follow that of the koran and, as I do respect your decision as to whatever you choose to follow, I can't accept it as truth. If you feel the same about the KJV then I will understand.
Apology accepted my friend. I thought when you said "your sciptures", you were refering to the Quran.

I do believe in the original Torah and Injil and definitely i accept many truths in the bible but it has nothing to do with my beliefs. BTW, i have a KJV with me and i used to read it.


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Old 01-28-2007, 06:29 AM
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Apology accepted my friend. I thought when you said "your sciptures", you were refering to the Quran.

I do believe in the original Torah and Injil and definitely i accept many truths in the bible but it has nothing to do with my beliefs. BTW, i have a KJV with me and i used to read it.


Peace and blessing,

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Shalom aleich as well. May YAH grant you with much abundance of understanding with the knowledge and wisdom you seek as to your righteousness which is His will.
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Heaven is pure, there is no lust, greed or any desire...
As we have been writing in the dimensions/diadems,13 commandments...

Heaven is beyond the 10th commandment and why Christ is door keeper as you must pass desire at 10 and then on to unconditional love.

yet with many desiring the mind of Christ and not accepting they already have this, they cause turmoil in heaven.
so instead never find it, you see, to even find heaven within the after life, you have to pass through many dimensions of lower vibration, until you reach somewhere that is part of this, yet is miles in advance of meta-physics.
As within heaven all is light and so no darkness, can ascend that high.
It is more based on quantum physics (oh yes; they just learning about this), you see each vibration level is a dimension and each is something than must be encompassed in the soul to pass on to the next.
As stated each person is their own judge, so if your soul is not ready to be unconditionally loving all day for the rest of infinity, then you will come back again.
Can go into load of details from when we died at 23, as to me I still live there in mind and spirit...yet my body is trapped here.
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