Sin in Heaven? (Kingdom, sin, bible, Commandment, Biblical)

[Darkness]

My Pastor explained it this way - we inherited the sinful nature from Adam. When believers die, then their sinful nature is gone, so when they go to Heaven, there is no sinful nature, therefore, no sin. But I can't tell you if there are any Bible verses that explain that.

This must mean we are no longer Free to sin, yet if we have Free Will on Earth, why should we lose it in Heaven? Most Christians are adament in believing we have Free Will and that it is the corner stone of all morality. Maybe morality is irrelevant in Heaven. One more concept which makes no sense to me in the Christian Religion.

[cardero]

I think of heaven as one big cartoon in which the limitations of what we can or want to do is only exceeded by our imagination. Dropping anvils upon entities heads only for them to come back in the next scene to give someone a hotfoot with absolutely no consequences or permanent damage at all. Spritual entities are as fluid as any animated character which is why I think we choose a physical existence; because we prefer another medium, another brand of wackiness.

[cturne]

Originally Posted by Darkness

This must mean we are no longer Free to sin, yet if we have Free Will on Earth, why should we lose it in Heaven? Most Christians are adament in believing we have Free Will and that it is the corner stone of all morality. Maybe morality is irrelevant in Heaven. One more concept which makes no sense to me in the Christian Religion.

We really don't have free will here on earth. If we had free will, then we would be able to be perfect - free to not sin, which is impossible.

We are not 'free to sin' we are bound to sin.

[gnomon]

Originally Posted by cturne

We really don't have free will here on earth. If we had free will, then we would be able to be perfect - free to not sin, which is impossible.

We are not 'free to sin' we are bound to sin.

If we are bound to sin then what is the point of sin. If you are bound to do something then what good is the judgement. The judgement does not lie on the bound individual but on the individual who binds. In this case, God.

It pretty much renders all human judgement pointless and any sense of christian morality becomes pointless as well.

[cturne]

Just because we are bound to sin does not mean we have the right to behave any way we want. We still have to exercise judgement and try to live a God-pleasing life. But everything we do is tainted by sin. That is why we cannot rely on ourselves for Salvation. We must look to God and believe in Jesus Christ, the one who led the perfect life that we cannot, suffered the punishment of our sins by dying on the cross and overcame death and the devil by rising up again.

[logician]

I do not believe in the concept of sin, or in any need to be "forgiven" for it. Obsession with "sin" has killed and tortured millions of people.

[Kungfuzed]

For those of you who don't beleive there is sin in heaven, is heaven a reward for having faith during this life? Is there anything more to heaven than being a reward?

For those of you who believe we can sin in heaven, is the purpose of this life to prepare us for even greater challenges in the next?

Lastly, if there is no sin in heaven, then why would anyone want to go there?

[Peace]

Originally Posted by Kungfuzed

Is there sin in heaven? Or is the free will we imagine having in this life taken back? Or are there simply no rules or commandments to break in heaven?

All the dwellers of Heaven are perfect and thus there is no sin.

Peace

[Burchfam]

We are taught that Heaven consists of us continuously bending our knees in the presence of Frya. We will have what feel exactly like physical bodies, full of all the desires, temptatations, and fatigues of the flesh, but if we act on any of them, or even if we stop bending our knees for an instant, our soul will cease to exist. Immortal souls are not ours by right, but are a free gift of Frya. So yes, in answer to the question, we can sin in Heaven, but it will be the last sin we ever do.

[may]

Originally Posted by Kungfuzed

why would anyone want to go there?

the only ones who are going to heaven are a little flock (144,000)
"Have no fear, little flock, because your Father has approved of giving you the kingdom."—LUKE 12:32.
And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. revelation 14;1
but the rest of us have the chance to inherit the earth .
Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.matthew 5;5

But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,

And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace psalm 37;11
these 144,000 will be going to heaven for a purpose, and the purpose is to serve as kings and priests with Jesus christ in the heavenly kingdom goverment .Daniel 2;44

(Revelation 5:10) and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth."

(Revelation 20:6) Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years.