Do You Believe In Fate?

Sunstone · #1 12-08-2006, 01:16 PM

Do you believe in fate? If so, why? If not, why not?

Willamena · #2 12-08-2006, 01:20 PM

I recognize fate as circumstances that come together in a meaningful way --meaningful to the observer. In that context, I do very much believe in fate. The meaning has significance for me.

Bishka · #3 12-08-2006, 01:28 PM

No.

The reason that I particularly don't believe in 'fate', is because I believe in God. Most everything happens for a reason, and it's not a mysterious fate that causes it or you aren't fated to do anything. You have your own free will to choose.......

Sunstone · #4 12-08-2006, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Willamena

I recognize fate as circumstances that come together in a meaningful way --meaningful to the observer. In that context, I do very much believe in fate. The meaning has significance for me.

So, something wouldn't be fate unless it were meaningful?

Willamena · #5 12-08-2006, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunstone

So, something wouldn't be fate unless it were meaningful?

I don't understand the question --can you re-phrase it?

Sunstone · #6 12-08-2006, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Willamena

I recognize fate as circumstances that come together in a meaningful way --meaningful to the observer. In that context, I do very much believe in fate. The meaning has significance for me.

So, if an event happened to someone, but that event had no meaning, no purpose, would that still be fate? Or does an event have to have meaning for it to be fate?

Or, am I missing your point?

klubbhead024 · #7 12-08-2006, 01:51 PM

No, I don't believe in fate...or luck for that matter. Everything is 100% chance

Willamena · #8 12-08-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunstone

So, if an event happened to someone, but that event had no meaning, no purpose, would that still be fate? Or does an event have to have meaning for it to be fate?

Or, am I missing your point?

Nothing that we can be aware of does not have meaning for a conscious mind; assigning meaning is a primary task of consciousness. Most meaning is like background noise (such is it taken for granted) but some few meanings stand out because of association with things that are important to the observer. They "speak" to the observer in a voice so loud it cannot be ignored. (I am, of course, referring to fate here as a synonym of "coincidence" or "omen".)

The event's purpose is its own. Meaning is something we assign.

Fate is more often coincidence that has the appearance of circumstances manipulating themselves to do something in particular to its subject. As it appears to happen *to* a person, and they take notice, that's not something that can be unmeaningful.