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Old 12-09-2006, 06:35 PM
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Can you understand tragedy if you don't believe in fate? Or would your belief that everything is a result of choice preclude you from understanding tragedy?
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:51 PM
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Can you understand tragedy if you don't believe in fate? Or would your belief that everything is a result of choice preclude you from understanding tragedy?
That's a very good question, Phil (which I stumble upon 2 years after it's been asked) in the way that tragedy contrasts "what has happened" with "what should have been," and there is no "what should have been" without a belief in fate. That tragedy exists at all in the "picture" one has painted indicates a belief in fate.
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I would have to say that most of the time Christians do not believe in fate, luck, chance or whatever you choose to call it.....

If for instance you were interested in someone, and you happen to have 3 different encounters with that person in one day, like at the grocery store, at the bank, and Walmart, could that be fate, divine intervention, or destiny. Or is one just stalking the other ? Stalking sounds more mysterious and intriguing doesn't it ?

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Yes I do believe in Fate(or even the Fates if you will). I see fate as something that happens that one has no control over really. Unlike Destiny.
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Nope, don't believe it because if fate exists than free will does not and then what is the point in doing anything if it will happen anyway. If fate did exist and a person was destined to say become a doctor than regardless of what the persons actions were like not going to school they would become a doctor anyway.
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I don't believe in predestination in any form, because it goes against the chaotic nature of the universe, more importantly, people use it as an excuse for random "bad" things that happen, when that's not the reason at all.
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Nope, don't believe it because if fate exists than free will does not and then what is the point in doing anything if it will happen anyway. If fate did exist and a person was destined to say become a doctor than regardless of what the persons actions were like not going to school they would become a doctor anyway.
But.... what if it's your fate to have free will?
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But.... what if it's your fate to have free will?
Hummm, you have a good point there because I have seen people do some pretty stupid things in my day and it couldn't have been of free will.
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Do you believe in fate? If so, why? If not, why not?
From my perspective everything that happens was supposed to happen because it did happen.

I would say that I believe more in Karma than in Fate, although they might both be the same thing ultimately.
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