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#11
12-08-2006, 02:25 PM
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No fate. Cause and Effect, freewill, and chaos all meet somewhere in the middle to make life one interesting mess.
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#12
12-08-2006, 03:27 PM
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Everything is fated: I'm a determinist, so it must be that way. There are variable solutions and outcomes to Events, but anything missing from the equation simply occurs @ a later time in perhaps another form or circumstance.
Put simply, you might deny fate without realizing you are fated to die one day from birth. Understand?
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12-08-2006, 03:43 PM
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12-08-2006, 03:57 PM
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"It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom — for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself." ~ Declaration of Abroth ~
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12-09-2006, 07:39 AM
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More!
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#16
12-09-2006, 07:52 AM
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It's like the woman who keeps getting involved with violent men. This is her "fate" until she becomes willing to directly address why this keeps happening to her, and to do something about it. We all have our "fate" until we're finally willing and able to directly address it. Then, with conscious and persistent effort, we can usually overcome such fate (this may, however, open the door to a new fate).
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#17
12-09-2006, 08:03 AM
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Imagine your mortal life as starting (at birth) at the base of an old tree. As you grow up, you're 'led' by your parents, so, to some extent, you have not got many choices to make until you become a teenager. When you are one (a teenager), is when you have reached a spot on the tree trunk where you can either carry on up the trunk, or go up anyone of the hundreds of branches - the choice is yours (your free will comes into play here), but you can choose from loads of options; you can go down one branch, decide you don't like the look of it, and go back for the trunk, and carry on straight up. The point is, the whole tree is already there, with all the temptations, all the possibilities of what you might chose to do already mapped out. Does that make sense ? It is as if all your potential 'fates' are "there" as you are born.
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My life is an open book; if you don't like the read, put me back on the shelf ....................
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#18
12-09-2006, 08:32 AM
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I believe in fate only in the sense that GOD wills something to occur in your life.
For example, the fact that my husband and I met and married and had children. I can so do the whole melodramtic hand on my forehead..."It was fate", thing. (And I have.  )My definition of FATE is "God willed this and allowed this."
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#19
12-09-2006, 08:53 AM
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FATE is the consequences of previous actions, FATE is the same as Karma. And you may or may not believe in it, but your belief does not stop it from affecting your life, moment by moment, and day by day.
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