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Old 11-28-2006, 01:23 AM
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A Taoist can be a Buddhist too. A Buddhist can be a Confucian too. So, can a Muslim be a Christian too? Can a Christian be a Jew too? Can a Muslim be a Jew too? Can a Christian be a Muslim too? Why or why not?
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A Taoist can be a Buddhist too. A Buddhist can be a Confucian too. So, can a Muslim be a Christian too? Can a Christian be a Jew too? Can a Muslim be a Jew too? Can a Christian be a Muslim too? Why or why not?
Philosophically they can but as far as religious beliefs go they cannot.
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A Taoist can be a Buddhist too. A Buddhist can be a Confucian too. So, can a Muslim be a Christian too? Can a Christian be a Jew too? Can a Muslim be a Jew too? Can a Christian be a Muslim too? Why or why not?
No, they cant. As the beliefs of a muslim are not the same as christian, and the same with judaism and christianity, the beliefs dont fit. Messianic jew is just a term for someone who is a jew by heritage ( if thats the right word?) who is a christian, personally i think its a pointless term, if you are a christian, your a christian, wether youre jewish, afro caribean or malaysian, you still a christian.
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A Taoist can be a Buddhist too. A Buddhist can be a Confucian too. So, can a Muslim be a Christian too? Can a Christian be a Jew too? Can a Muslim be a Jew too? Can a Christian be a Muslim too? Why or why not?
Well, a Jewish-Christian is a Messianic Jew, and a Muslim is already kind of Jewish, as he kind of is Christian. I don't know if a Christian can be a Muslim too...perhaps...maybe the person should just be Bahá'í?
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I wouldn't be able to answer for the Jews, but, no, you cannot be a follower of Muhammed(sp) and the Jesus of the Bible at the same time...
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No, they cant. As the beliefs of a muslim are not the same as christian, and the same with judaism and christianity, the beliefs dont fit. Messianic jew is just a term for someone who is a jew by heritage ( if thats the right word?) who is a christian, personally i think its a pointless term, if you are a christian, your a christian, wether youre jewish, afro caribean or malaysian, you still a christian.
Astutely put Stimpleton. Muslim is a religion not an ethnic group, You can't be a muslim Christian as if you believe Jesus is the Son of God and you can't be a Christian if you believe God has no Son, both sets of scriptures are explicit about this.
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A Taoist can be a Buddhist too. A Buddhist can be a Confucian too.
Eastern countries and their religions are different to western ones. They developed differently, they aren't mutually exclusive as eastern faiths tend to be more about understanding the universe and the self rather than salvation and serving a God.
Confucianism is more about politics and ethics than divinity, and Buddhism is all do to with personal enlightenment with an agnostic approach to God. Taoism is unlike any western religion as the Tao is not a personality. The principles of all three "religions" can be fused together to varying degrees and still function. You can be a Buddhist and follow Confucianism without impeding on the teachings of either. The same with Taoism, with Buddhism and Confucianism being essentially agnostic they can incorporate the Tao as the concept of divinity and remain practically untouched.
If not Taoism the Shintoism, or local deities may be worshiped alongside following the Buddha and/or Confucius.

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So, can a Muslim be a Christian too? Can a Christian be a Jew too? Can a Muslim be a Jew too? Can a Christian be a Muslim too? Why or why not?
The difference between the eastern religions/philosophies outlined above and the western/middle eastern religions is in the concept of a God with a personality who reveals certain Truths that He expects his followers to believe unwaveringly.
When a new religion arises from a religion such as this, it's ultimately about succession, having the new Truths, rather than simply the formation of new spiritual/philosophical ideas.

A Jew is a Jew, he has his faith outlined and any deviation from that is outside the boundries of Judaism.
Christianity is more complex. It arose from Judaism, and if you asked St. Peter when he was alive, no doubt we would have identified as a Jew who followed Christ. The Ebionites were also Jews who followed Christ - it all depends on the concept of who Christ is. To the Ebionites, and arguable Peter and James, Jesus was a prophet, not a deity. In a similar vein to John the Baptist, they could be Jews and follow a new Jewish prophet or teacher.
When Paul arrived on the scene pronouning Christ as a God, that's where succession from Judaism took place - with Paul's teaching of Jesus creating a new covenant with God for the Jews AND the Gentiles, a new religion was created that considered Judaism redundant. So, you can be a Jewish person who is a Christian, but you can't really follow both belief systems without compromising core aspects of one or the other.

Islam is slightly different. Much like Manichaenism, Islam incorporates the beliefs of the two older religions while adding some new. Arguably, Muslims could be seen as following a fusion of several Jewish and Christian beliefs without the problems that crop up in attempting to combine Judaism and modern Pauline Christianity.
Although, there is still the matter of succession, Muhammed (like Mani before him) being the Seal of the Prophets - the last in the prophetic line. So, while Islam contains many aspects that are Jewish and Christian, you can't be a Jewish Muslim or a Christian Muslim as Islam supercedes both those religions and renders them redundant.

So, in summary, Eastern relgions lend themselves well to fusion with other faiths due to their having no sense of succession or fulfillment of a prophecy that we find in Western religions, and which prevents the later from incorporating outside influences so easily.
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I agree they would not be compatible as Islam is a true monotheistic religion meaning no intermediaries. There aren't too many religions that are truly inclusive. Depending on the movement of Islam people from other faiths can be considered a Muslim. I was explaining the Noahide code to a Muslim (a reasonist?) and he said, "Why, you are a Muslim! Welcome!". This is one of the great things about the Noahide code is that an observant Muslim is considered a Noahide. Any other faith that also follows the tenants also found in the seven laws of Noah are also a Noahide.
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