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Old 11-29-2006, 06:34 PM
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A Taoist can be a Buddhist too. A Buddhist can be a Confucian too. So, can a Muslim be a Christian too? Can a Christian be a Jew too? Can a Muslim be a Jew too? Can a Christian be a Muslim too? Why or why not?
As a Christian, I could not reconcile Islam with Christianity.

I just don't understand how the two could be reconciled and practiced without feeling guilt or experiencing spiritual conflict, especially for the Trinitarian...who believes that God is three persons: Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

It's too conflicting, in my opinion. I would however, be incredibly interested to hear a "Christian Muslim"'s account of their religion and faith.

I do believe it's possible to be both Christian and Jewish. Messianic Jews view Christ as Saviour. I'm not sure but I was under the impression that they embrace both the OT and NT of the Bible but keep to older tradition. I could be wrong...
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:44 PM
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It's pretty much a done deal as far as we're concerned. For Allah to have said khatam-e-rasul would've left room for a nabi to come. Allah said khatam-e-nabi which ends it. A rasul is a prophet that brings a book, and a nabi is a prophet that supports the one previous to him. So every rasul is a nabi, but not every nabi is a rasul. Saying nabi covers all bases whether the prophet is a rasul or not. So by our estimation if Bahaullah was a prophet and if he brought a book, then he would qualify as a rasul. Consequently as a rasul he would automatically be a nabi. However in Quran (which you say bahai's accept) Allah refers to Muhammad as the last of the nabi's. By this reasoning Bahaullah is cut out. I don't want to step on any toes, so if I offended then I apologize. Also, this is a little off topic/on topic so I won't say more on this issue so that the thread can continue.......
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:29 AM
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bruce , I think we have dicussed it before

first ,I would like you to know that you are talking to an arab muslim

and i have been , studing both Arabic and the quran since my childhood

so , I have no 0.0000001 % doubt , in what the verse is supposed to mean

and we have told you before , when it comes to arabic , you have to ask
a reliable (neutral ) arab about it ,

there is also hadith sahih , that says that Muhammed is the last prophet ,to Earth

**Another thing i want you to know , is that all messengers are prophets ,but not vice versa
which means that if muhammed is the last prophet , then he is the last messenger as well
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It's pretty much a done deal as far as we're concerned. For Allah to have said khatam-e-rasul would've left room for a nabi to come. Allah said khatam-e-nabi which ends it. A rasul is a prophet that brings a book, and a nabi is a prophet that supports the one previous to him. So every rasul is a nabi, but not every nabi is a rasul. Saying nabi covers all bases whether the prophet is a rasul or not. So by our estimation if Bahaullah was a prophet and if he brought a book, then he would qualify as a rasul. Consequently as a rasul he would automatically be a nabi. However in Quran (which you say bahai's accept) Allah refers to Muhammad as the last of the nabi's. By this reasoning Bahaullah is cut out. I don't want to step on any toes, so if I offended then I apologize. Also, this is a little off topic/on topic so I won't say more on this issue so that the thread can continue.......


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Old 11-30-2006, 04:11 AM
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A Taoist can be a Buddhist too. A Buddhist can be a Confucian too. So, can a Muslim be a Christian too? Can a Christian be a Jew too? Can a Muslim be a Jew too? Can a Christian be a Muslim too? Why or why not?
Why not? If it could be agreed that Judaism, Christianity and Islam belong to the same family of religious faiths, then they could be subsumed within a greater category. Maybe one exists? If on the other hand we choose to highlight obvious differences as evidence of a necessary incompatability between Christians and Moslems, we could still categorise them as fractious brothers.
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In addition, the word in the Qur'an often translated as "Seal" also means "ornament," so it's entirely possible it's simply calling Muhammad the Ornament of the prophets--nothing about a finish at all!

Just the facts. :-)
Facts? what facts?

Thank God, prophet Mohammed warned us already about any other person who claim to be prophet after him and they were alot. If you clicked in my signature "The Last Sermon of Prophet Muhammad", you will find this passage.

O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the Quran and my example, the Sunnah and if you follow these you will never go astray.
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Thank God, prophet Mohammed warned us already about any other person who claim to be prophet after him and they were alot. If you clicked in my signature "The Last Sermon of Prophet Muhammad", you will find this passage.

O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the Quran and my example, the Sunnah and if you follow these you will never go astray.
Except you guys also believe that all of the Abrahamic faiths are the same faith, just in different stages. So what's to say that the Baha'i Faith isn't the same faith, just a new stage? After all, in the Hidden Words, Baha'u'llah wrote "This is the changeless faith of God, eternal in the past, eternal in the future."

Besides, Christ himself said something so final when he said "I am the way and the light, no one comes to the Father except by me" and yet we know that there was more to what he said than what was just on the surface. Right?
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Except you guys also believe that all of the Abrahamic faiths are the same faith, just in different stages. So what's to say that the Baha'i Faith isn't the same faith, just a new stage?
Because Allah and his messenger told us that there will be no prophet after Mohammed and no faith will be born.

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Depends in the way you interpret that verse of the bible. If it was really what Christ said so it might mean that no one come to the father "in the time when Jesus was on earth" except through following his teaching.

The same with prophet Mohammed, no one can get the light and obey God except through accepting him and his teaching.
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