If Muslims Renounce Islam (America, experience, faith, Christianity, Christian)

[mr.guy]

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[Scott1]

Originally Posted by lunamoth

Scott, Wouldn't you say though that from a Catholic, EO (or any other Christian non-Sola Scrpitura) view the same could be said about the Bible in relation to Christianity?

Yes... and that's my point... we have the empirical Church to guide us... Islam is without such structure and seems to rest upon the teachings of ONE MAN... not the Koran as I have been told by Muslims is the case.... I'm only responding to what I have been told is the truth.... as this next poster shows------------->

Originally Posted by Peace

God doen't need an interpreter. His message is very clear and reading the holy Quran is not at all a waste of time. The Quran is very clear but some of the verses need interpretation, they need to be put into context the historical when they were revealed, that's why we have to go back to the Tafseer "interpretation" and to the Hadith and Prophet Sunnah that simplify and make it for us to understand every smallest matter. But the Quran in itself is clear and its teachings have to do with all what we need in our life and it purifies the soul and brings peace to the heart.

See what I mean? The "Quran is very clear".... but only when you get it "right"....

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[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by Scott1

Yes... and that's my point... we have the empirical Church to guide us... Islam is without such structure and seems to rest upon the teachings of ONE MAN... not the Koran as I have been told by Muslims is the case.... I'm only responding to what I have been told is the truth.... as this next poster shows------------->

Ahhh, gotcha Scott. I think I see the distinction you are making. Thank you.

luna

[!Fluffy!]

Originally Posted by maro

...Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater. (sura3 ,verse 118)

Can you people be any more RUDE?

I have asked repeatedly that you return to topic and you refuse.

I'm asking that the thread be closed. If that doesn't happen I'll make sure I answer each and every post in like manner.
Moon Woman

[!Fluffy!]

Originally Posted by gnostic

I think you are trying to win an unwin-able battle, MW.

But I will try to remind people here, too.

This topic about an individual who leave Islam, and the consequences....if any....of leaving this religion.

It's not about Muhammad, Jesus, Moses or any other prophet you can think of. It's not about end time. For Moon Woman's sake, start a new topic if you want to continue this current direction of debate, otherwise stick to the topic.

Thanks, gnostic. Apparently the tactic is to ignore, then smother.

It doesn't speak well for the posters who do this.

[!Fluffy!]

Originally Posted by maro

I think the major difference , between Muslims and others has become very clear in this thread

Muslims love jesus , respect him , and call him a great prophet ( peace and blessings be upon him )

while others are full of hatred towards our great beloved prophet , Muhammed _ peace and blessings be upon him _

I know this is not the case for all christians ,
but it really makes me sad , that this is the case for some of them ,

are these the teachings of christianity ? I don't think so

in my country , there are a lot of chritians , they are part of our muslim community , our neighbours and friends ,

and all we see from them is respect and love , to all prophets and all religions ,

If you can make a case for demoting Christ from divine Redeemer to human prophet I suggest you go to the appropriate thread and post your arguments. And no, it is not "respectful" to do so.

But that's not the topic.

[Mike182]

i am closing this thread, as per Moon Woman's request in post 266.