Men and women have different fates (ritual, beliefs, spiritual, faith)

[Burchfam]

Originally Posted by Rejected

And what would those results be?

I read a brief overview of your faith before I posted, but thanks again for the info.

You still haven't answered my questions though.

Why can't men attain spiritual enlightenment?

I'm sorry I thought you said you couldn't access my site which is why I posted it here. As to why men can't attain spiritual enlightenment, I actually don't know. We are taught that this is the case, and there must be a reason for it. I suspect its their physical make-up, but this is necessary for the propogation of the species.

[Pardus]

Originally Posted by Burchfam

I only want what is possible. I did not set things up this way.

Sounds like you are not trying to fix things anymore, forget feminism, try equalism.

You want to be treated equally, treat others equally or to quote ghandi "be the change you want to see in the world".

Is the fact that i regularly wear a skirt make me more feminine? does it make me any less straight?

[Burchfam]

Originally Posted by Pardus

Sounds like you are not trying to fix things anymore, forget feminism, try equalism.

You want to be treated equally, treat others equally or to quote ghandi "be the change you want to see in the world".

Is the fact that i regularly wear a skirt make me more feminine? does it make me any less straight?

I have never asked to be treated "equally" (whatever that means). I'm not sure what you mean about skirt-wearing, but I am neither straight nor gay.

[Rejected]

Originally Posted by Burchfam

I'm sorry I thought you said you couldn't access my site which is why I posted it here. As to why men can't attain spiritual enlightenment, I actually don't know. We are taught that this is the case, and there must be a reason for it. I suspect its their physical make-up, but this is necessary for the propogation of the species.

Wiki knows everything.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time, I promise, and I apologize if I’ve ruffled any feathers. I just have a very hard time believing anything that makes absolute claims about reality (physical or spiritual) without hard evidence or observable results. Do you know if your scripture describes why/how men are prohibited from spiritual progression?

You say "we are taught" but to me teaching someone involves describing the workings, the how and the why, of what is being taught. Otherwise you are being told something.

[sojourner]

It almost sounds like a militant form of Christian feminism, with elements of other religions thrown in for good measure, because of the representation of strong women in the divine pantheon.

[Burchfam]

Originally Posted by Rejected

Wiki knows everything.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time, I promise, and I apologize if I’ve ruffled any feathers. I just have a very hard time believing anything that makes absolute claims about reality (physical or spiritual) without hard evidence or observable results. Do you know if your scripture describes why/how men are prohibited from spiritual progression?

You say "we are taught" but to me teaching someone involves describing the workings, the how and the why, of what is being taught. Otherwise you are being told something.

Our scripture allots functions to men in society such as warrior. All spiritual duties are alloted to women. It doesn't say why.

[Burchfam]

Originally Posted by sojourner

It almost sounds like a militant form of Christian feminism, with elements of other religions thrown in for good measure, because of the representation of strong women in the divine pantheon.

We are not Christian though.

[Pardus]

Originally Posted by Burchfam

I have never asked to be treated "equally" (whatever that means).

Ahh so you wish to promote sexism, because it is the way things are.

Originally Posted by Burchfam

I'm not sure what you mean about skirt-wearing, but I am neither straight nor gay.

I am making the point that sexism exists against men too, and these days men are more disadvantaged by sexism than females are.

[Burchfam]

Originally Posted by Pardus

Ahh so you wish to promote sexism, because it is the way things are.



I am making the point that sexism exists against men too, and these days men are more disadvantaged by sexism than females are.

I avoid political stances such as this. I am fully prepared to admit that men are better at some things than women, mostly physical things but also things to do with logic and analytical thought. For this reason they are better suited to some jobs.

[Shadow Wolf]

I suppose men are just built differently. Perhaps they really don't have that ability and that is just part of how they are.

Personally, I am highly insulted by such a claim, that men are unable to transcend this real, with a sole reasoning of "that is just part of how they are."
Physically different, yes. Spiritually however, gender is unknown.

Our scripture allots functions to men in society such as warrior. All spiritual duties are alloted to women. It doesn't say why.

I can personally assure you, as a Reiki II practitioner, as one who uses Nocturnal energies, and performes divination with good accuracy, men are equal with women with spiritual performances.