A Christian persective of God and Country (America)

fromthe heart · #1 06-28-2006, 06:16 PM

Since the 4th of July is just around the corner I thought I would share some words from our past Presidents on God and Country... www.interviewwithgod.com/patriotic/highband.htm
Some may like it and others may not...I hope some will enjoy it in the NATURE it was intended for love of God/family and country. Have a wonder fourth of July everyone.

Green Gaia · #2 06-29-2006, 06:37 AM

So..... if you're not Christian you're not patriotic and American?

PureX · #3 06-29-2006, 07:00 AM

Personally, I find that sort of ignorant schlock disgusting. The implication is clear: if you aren't religious, you aren't really a patriot. All I can say is God please save us from such "patriots".

MidnightBlue · #4 06-29-2006, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by fromthe heart

Some may like it and others may not...

No matter how obnoxious religious triumphalism, jingoism, or the glorification of warfare may be, there's nothing quite so obnoxious as the three combined. However, it's never a bad idea to stay aware of these problems.

fromthe heart · #5 06-30-2006, 05:21 PM

Gee...unbelievable!!!

fromthe heart · #6 06-30-2006, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Maize

So..... if you're not Christian you're not patriotic and American?

Never intended it to be taken that way at all...go figure!!!

As for the rest of the comments...I'm patriotic and I'm proud of some of our forefathers knowledge on religious issues...so what is wrong with that??? If you don't like it big deal...(if you do well ok)...get a clue! Don't make something into something it's not!

PureX · #7 07-01-2006, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fromthe heart

Never intended it to be taken that way at all...go figure!!!

As for the rest of the comments...I'm patriotic and I'm proud of some of our forefathers knowledge on religious issues...so what is wrong with that??? If you don't like it big deal...(if you do well ok)...get a clue! Don't make something into something it's not!

I think you are oblivious to your own prejudice. A lot of people find that sort of content insulting, and even frightening. It's combining religious elitism with nationalism, and separately these ideas are dangerous enough, but together, they are often deadly. Many of the most horrific acts in human history were committed under the banner of "God and country", and were justified by a mind-numbingly blind alliegence to these. Those of us who know this, cringe when we see this sort of thing festering in our own society.

MidnightBlue · #8 07-01-2006, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PureX

I think you are oblivious to your own prejudice. A lot of people find that sort of content insulting, and even frightening.

I'm one of them, and frankly I find it even more insulting and frightening when people can't understand why.

sparc872 · #9 07-01-2006, 09:12 AM

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I think you are oblivious to your own prejudice. A lot of people find that sort of content insulting, and even frightening. It's combining religious elitism with nationalism, and separately these ideas are dangerous enough, but together, they are often deadly. Many of the most horrific acts in human history were committed under the banner of "God and country", and were justified by a mind-numbingly blind alliegence to these. Those of us who know this, cringe when we see this sort of thing festering in our own society.

I would have shot some karma your way but your posts have been too good lately and I need to spread it around first.

Since when is being a Christian linked at all to patriotism? I don't know what your views are on certain issues, from theheart, but I am of the opinion that those of us who do not blindly follow what are government leaders tell us to and challenge them and make sure they are in check are the patriotic ones. How are we to be patriotic when our very leaders are making a mockery of the thing?

I'm a bit groggy so sorry if this post is a little incoherent