Religious Education Forum  

Welcome to Religious Forums
Welcome Guest to ReligiousForums.com . You are currently not registered. When you become registered you will be able to interact with our large base of already registered users discussing topics. Some annoying Ads will also disappear when you register. Registering doesn't cost a thing and only takes a few seconds. We provide areas to chat and debate all World Religions. Please go to our register page!

Home Who's Online Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Religious Education Forum / Religious Topics / Religious Debates / General Religious Debates
Reload this Page seek and you shall find................ (ritual, reject, salvation, beliefs)
Sitemap Popular RF Forums REGISTER Search Mark Forums Read

Reply
Page 1 of 3 1 23 >
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-22-2006, 04:59 AM
Shtef Offline
Religion: freelance Christian
Title:Freshman Member
  
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Australia
Gender: Male
Posts: 55
Frubals: 1646
Shtef has a spectacular aura aboutShtef has a spectacular aura aboutShtef has a spectacular aura aboutShtef has a spectacular aura aboutShtef has a spectacular aura aboutShtef has a spectacular aura about
Default seek and you shall find................
I remember what life was like right after I had actually sat down and read the bible for the first time. I was petrified. I couldn't imagine how I was not going to go to hell. 'God' meant business. Out of fear I began to pay a lot more attention to religion (Christianity mostly) seeking to learn how it was I was supposed to live in order to escape hell fire.

Along the path I discovered Judaism and it's rejection of Christ as a false prophet and its rejection of Christianity as a false religion (false God).

Brother, I didn't know where to go. On one side I'm being told that without Christianity I will not see heaven and on the other I'm being told that if I do follow Christianity I will not see God. It was absolutely frightening.

So, what did I do? I went straight to the source and prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed that I might be given the answer as to which religion is God's 'true' religion. After all, both religions guarantee that if you should earnestly seek the truth, the truth will be given to you.

After all of this constant praying, I began to come across two kinds of literature. Literature that spoke of a God much different, much gentler and more tolerant than he in the bible and literature that denounced elitist religions such as Christianity and Judaism.

Now, I know that some might say that this was the work of the 'Devil' but I don't buy that. I was told that if I should seek, I will find. I sought and was lead away from religion and in the direction of spirituality. Here I have formed my beliefs that God is unconditional love and completely disinterested in what religion one might practice.

What say you, the Jews or Christians, who would have it that I will not have salvation outside of your religion? How could I possibly be blamed now for not following the 'right God' when I asked God for an answer and was led to where I am?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-22-2006, 05:05 AM
Mike182's Avatar
Mike182 Offline
Religion: Gay Pagan
Title:Flaming Queer
Prolific Poster Award: - Issue reason: 10,000 posts! Tolerance Award: - Issue reason: Your peers have nominated you for the tolerance award, and it's well deserved. Kindness Award: - Issue reason: Your peers have nominated you for the kindness award, and it's well deserved. Humor Award: - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Lancaster, UK!
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,137
Frubals: 1653251
Mike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal Whore
Mike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal Whore
Mike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal WhoreMike182 is a Frubal Whore
Default
others would indeed disagree with you, i, however, will not.

im happy for you, and im glad you have found peace
__________________
Eddie!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-22-2006, 05:16 AM
Jayhawker Soule's Avatar
Jayhawker Soule Offline
Religion: naturalism
Title:Supporter
Prolific Poster Award: - Issue reason: You have acheived over 10,000 posts here at RF. Congrats! Scholarship Award: - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: May 2004
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,509
Frubals: 2365888
Jayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal Whore
Jayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal Whore
Jayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal Whore
Default
It's called ... confirmation bias.
__________________
if G-d ( G-d is not 'X' for all 'X' )
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-22-2006, 06:40 AM
jewscout's Avatar
jewscout Offline
Religion: Judaism
Title:Religious Zionist
  
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Israel
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,316
Frubals: 198696
jewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond repute
jewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond reputejewscout has a reputation beyond repute
Default
Quote:

What say you, the Jews or Christians, who would have it that I will not have salvation outside of your religion? How could I possibly be blamed now for not following the 'right God' when I asked God for an answer and was led to where I am?
this statement shows a complete ignorance of Judaism
__________________
good night, sleep tight, and don't let the bedbugs put their foot in your....
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-22-2006, 06:56 AM
James the Persian's Avatar
James the Persian Offline
Religion: Orthodox Christian
Title:Dreptcredincios Crestin
Ambassador Award: Award designated for members who show great knowledge of their religion. - Issue reason: This award is presented by your peers and is well deserved Courtesy Award: - Issue reason:  Scholarship Award: - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Yorkshire
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,410
Frubals: 340293
James the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfast
James the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfastJames the Persian eats frubals for breakfast
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by jewscout
this statement shows a complete ignorance of Judaism
Not to mention great swathes of Christianity.

James
__________________
Doamne Iisuse Hristoase, Fiul lui Dumnezeu, miluieşte-mă pe mine, păcătosul.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-22-2006, 07:02 AM
robtex's Avatar
robtex Offline
Religion: Atheist
Title:Super Moderator
Prolific Poster Award: - Issue reason: 10,000 posts! Above and Beyond Award: - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: austin
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,632
Frubals: 892503
robtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islands
robtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islands
robtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islandsrobtex has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islands
Default
Shtef, Your God commands subsmisson through fear and threat? Have you ever read the Bible and if so how much? How much do you know about the early histories of both Judiasm and Christianity? When you pray do you talk to God and does he talk back? If so what does he say?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-22-2006, 07:36 AM
evearael Offline
Title:Theist
Kindness Award: - Issue reason: This award has been given to you by your peers and is well deserved. 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Gender: Undisclosed
Posts: 5,992
Frubals: 318729
evearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfast
evearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfastevearael eats frubals for breakfast
Default
I know Judaism doesn't send non-Jews to hell for theological disagreements...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-22-2006, 07:41 AM
michel's Avatar
michel Offline
Religion: Christian Gnostic
Title:Administrator Emeritus
Above and Beyond Award: - Issue reason: This award has been given to you by your peers for your work on the newsletter and is well deserved. Creative Thread Award: - Issue reason:  Research Award: - Issue reason:  Article Award: - Issue reason:  Prolific Poster Award: - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: U.K
Gender: Male
Posts: 28,102
Frubals: 1211844
michel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whore
michel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whore
michel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whoremichel is a Frubal Whore
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shtef
I remember what life was like right after I had actually sat down and read the bible for the first time. I was petrified. I couldn't imagine how I was not going to go to hell. 'God' meant business. Out of fear I began to pay a lot more attention to religion (Christianity mostly) seeking to learn how it was I was supposed to live in order to escape hell fire.

Along the path I discovered Judaism and it's rejection of Christ as a false prophet and its rejection of Christianity as a false religion (false God).

Brother, I didn't know where to go. On one side I'm being told that without Christianity I will not see heaven and on the other I'm being told that if I do follow Christianity I will not see God. It was absolutely frightening.

So, what did I do? I went straight to the source and prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed that I might be given the answer as to which religion is God's 'true' religion. After all, both religions guarantee that if you should earnestly seek the truth, the truth will be given to you.

After all of this constant praying, I began to come across two kinds of literature. Literature that spoke of a God much different, much gentler and more tolerant than he in the bible and literature that denounced elitist religions such as Christianity and Judaism.

Now, I know that some might say that this was the work of the 'Devil' but I don't buy that. I was told that if I should seek, I will find. I sought and was lead away from religion and in the direction of spirituality. Here I have formed my beliefs that God is unconditional love and completely disinterested in what religion one might practice.

What say you, the Jews or Christians, who would have it that I will not have salvation outside of your religion? How could I possibly be blamed now for not following the 'right God' when I asked God for an answer and was led to where I am?
I am not sure about some of the conclusions you have come to, about different faiths. I must admit that 'Freelance Christian' made me chuckle, because maybe that describes me.

Quote:
I was told that if I should seek, I will find. I sought and was lead away from religion and in the direction of spirituality. Here I have formed my beliefs that God is unconditional love and completely disinterested in what religion one might practice.
I would go along with that; I think it is very much the way I think.

Quote:
What say you, the Jews or Christians, who would have it that I will not have salvation outside of your religion? How could I possibly be blamed now for not following the 'right God' when I asked God for an answer and was led to where I am?
The first thing I would tell you is that I don't believe that any of that is true.
__________________
My life is an open book; if you don't like the read, put me back on the shelf ....................
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-22-2006, 08:24 AM
sojourner's Avatar
sojourner Offline
Religion: Christian
Title:Uber Member
Tolerance Award: - Issue reason: This award had been given to you by your peers and is well deserved. Scholarship Award: - Issue reason: This award was given to you by your peers and is well deserved. 
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Missouri
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,263
Frubals: 1006306
sojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whore
sojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whore
sojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whoresojourner is a Frubal Whore
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shtef
I remember what life was like right after I had actually sat down and read the bible for the first time. I was petrified. I couldn't imagine how I was not going to go to hell. 'God' meant business. Out of fear I began to pay a lot more attention to religion (Christianity mostly) seeking to learn how it was I was supposed to live in order to escape hell fire.

Along the path I discovered Judaism and it's rejection of Christ as a false prophet and its rejection of Christianity as a false religion (false God).

Brother, I didn't know where to go. On one side I'm being told that without Christianity I will not see heaven and on the other I'm being told that if I do follow Christianity I will not see God. It was absolutely frightening.

So, what did I do? I went straight to the source and prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed that I might be given the answer as to which religion is God's 'true' religion. After all, both religions guarantee that if you should earnestly seek the truth, the truth will be given to you.

After all of this const