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Old 11-15-2005, 05:24 PM
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Default Is the belief "There are no absolute truths", an absolute truth?
In other words those who believe there aren't any absolute truths, would have to believe that notion was an absolute, undisbutable truth.

I thought some skeptics of those who believe their religeon has absolute truths, might think it is worth debating.

Again, I leave it to you to debate
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Old 11-15-2005, 05:29 PM
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No, it's not. It is simply a negation of a proposition. It is stating only that there is neither evidence nor reason to believe in absolute truths. If asked whether or not that statement is absolutely true, I'm sure they'd say, "what the hell kind of question is that? We just said that there was no absolute truth".
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Old 11-15-2005, 06:15 PM
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No, it's not. It is simply a negation of a proposition. It is stating only that there is neither evidence nor reason to believe in absolute truths. If asked whether or not that statement is absolutely true, I'm sure they'd say, "what the hell kind of question is that? We just said that there was no absolute truth".
It is proper to say there are absolutely no absolutes because "absolutely" is an adjective that describes an attribute having the characteristics of "absolute" which doen't exist. It is as easy to say, "there goes a godly man", and yet not acknowledge the existence of God.

To be grammatically and factually correct, your question should be "Is the belief "There are no absolute truths", absolutely true"?
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If someone makes the statement "There are no absoulutes" and belives the statement to be true then it is a contridiction.
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If someone makes the statement "There are no absoulutes" and belives the statement to be true then it is a contridiction.
I don't see why.
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If someone makes the statement "There are no absoulutes" and belives the statement to be true then it is a contridiction.
Actually, a belief denies absolutes.
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:27 PM
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I don't see why.
Because if they belive their statement is true then they dont really belive there are no absolutes.



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Actually, a belief denies absolutes.
How so?
Beliving somthing to be true but not being sure dosnt mean that it isnt absolutly true.
Our beliefs dont change objective reality. If something is true it is true, it dosnt matter if you belive it or not.
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In other words those who believe there aren't any absolute truths, would have to believe that notion was an absolute, undisbutable truth.
And your point?
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Life is a paradox.
Is that true?
Besides what does that actually mean?


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It's hardly shocking that truth has one too.
Who here has said truth has a paradox?
The statement "There are no absolute truths" simply denies objective truth.

Have you ever taken a maths test? If there are no absolute truths why did you bother?
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