Does evidence of God(s) exist? (ritual, morals, Earth, evolve)

[Ormiston]

Originally Posted by chuck010342

So you only want empiracle evidence then? Show you shall recieve.

Would you consider the argument from design?

I don't think I can handle any more of that. That's why I'm taking a slightly more direct route...

[Met0047]

God is exist.Yes, and the evidence is your mind and your complicated body that none can't make something like it .It is not nature, because nature also from God

Thanks

Originally Posted by Ormiston

Has anyone SEEN evidence with their own two eyes that God or Gods exist? Be VERY specific. I am mostly interested in unlikely events, clues found in nature, or spiritual interventions. I am NOT interested in hearsay, scripture, or generalizations about emotions (love, morals, etc.).

[Searcher of Light]

Originally Posted by Ormiston

Perhaps I didn't phrase the question well. Let's try again. Has anyone witnessed a miracle? To claim no evidence exists is to claim that the miracles in the bible do not exist. Has God or Gods spoken directly to anyone? There are people throughout history that claim this. Has anyones religion saved their lives? I know a few people who claim this. I'm not looking to prove God does or does not exist, I'm just looking for clues.

Each day, each breath, is a God given miracle.

The largest clue that "proves" God exists is the order of the universe. Everything in existance interacts on a large logical scale that often leaves evolution scratching its head as it tries to figure out how such order can come from chaos. Life violates the 2nd law of thermal dynamics by existing well past its expiration date. The fact that order cannot come from chaos, as stated by the law, offers a large clue toward supporting God's existence.

But then, I am looking at it all through the eyes of a believer

[lilithu]

Originally Posted by Ormiston

Perhaps I didn't phrase the question well. Let's try again. Has anyone witnessed a miracle?

As Einstein said, there are only two ways to look at the world, either everything is a miracle or nothing is a miracle.

[gtrsgrls]

Originally Posted by Terrywoodenpic

There is no physical evidence that God exists.
There is likewise, no evidence that God does not exist.
Miracles, the evidence for which is not scientificaly proven, are the nearest to proof that can be offered.

Never the less many of us KNOW that God does exist.

Have you ever driven by mount Rushmore?That is obviously something that was created.Right?Not something that nature can do.Right?It's too complecated.So when we see something like our world,something that is so complicated,it proves that something must have created it.Or you could go on the belief that everything you see here,mountains,oceans,sunsets,all these beautiful things somehow evolved from an atom.But wait...where did that atom come from?Hmmm.

[JerryL]

Have you ever driven by mount Rushmore?

No, but I've seen it.

That is obviously something that was created.Right?

Yes, it has all the hallmarks we know to be a man-made work.

Not something that nature can do.Right?

Wrong. Nature is perfectly capabale of doing it; but the likelhood of such specific mimicry is very low. It's unprescedented for chaotic elements to make, what we would know to be an abomination (as we don't see them everywhere) that was so specifically similar to something else.

Nature did, in fact, make the faces of the people that the artist then copied onto the mountain.

It's too complecated.

Not at all. It's no more complicated than any other varied stone... it's just specific.

So when we see something like our world,something that is so complicated,it proves that something must have created it.

Is God complicated?

Or you could go on the belief that everything you see here,mountains,oceans,sunsets,all these beautiful things somehow evolved from an atom.

No, these things did not evolve. They formed.

But wait...where did that atom come from?Hmmm.

Rapidly cooling sub-atomic particles. Where did God come from?

[michel]

Originally Posted by JerryL

No, but I've seen it.

Yes, it has all the hallmarks we know to be a man-made work.

Wrong. Nature is perfectly capabale of doing it; but the likelhood of such specific mimicry is very low. It's unprescedented for chaotic elements to make, what we would know to be an abomination (as we don't see them everywhere) that was so specifically similar to something else.

Nature did, in fact, make the faces of the people that the artist then copied onto the mountain.

Not at all. It's no more complicated than any other varied stone... it's just specific.

Is God complicated?

No, these things did not evolve. They formed.

Rapidly cooling sub-atomic particles. Where did God come from?

Am I getting a feeling of déjà vu, or are we at the same stage in another thread ?

[AtheistAJ]

Originally Posted by gtrsgrls

Have you ever driven by mount Rushmore?That is obviously something that was created.Right?Not something that nature can do.Right?It's too complecated.So when we see something like our world,something that is so complicated,it proves that something must have created it.Or you could go on the belief that everything you see here,mountains,oceans,sunsets,all these beautiful things somehow evolved from an atom.But wait...where did that atom come from?Hmmm.

1) Trees (example) were not created by humans, neither were hydrogen molecules, which created trees and humans. Trees and humans are can all be beautiful, it's just different tastes. The fact humans who came up with idea of gods imagined them in human likeness is a proof religion is a lie. What they couldn't have been more imaginitive? And why would some god have arms and legs and be designed for life on Earth when he allegedly created all there is to be?
2) Q - Who created god(s)? A - Humans.
3) Q - Who created mount Rushmore? A - Humans.

[JerryL]

Originally Posted by michel

Am I getting a feeling of déjà vu, or are we at the same stage in another thread ?

SSDD

[Ormiston]

Has God spoken directly to anyone? Has anyone witnessed what they thought was a classic miracle? Arguing about design seems like a lost cause. What about near death experiences? I just want one first hand example. Jesus supposedly showed miracles to thousands of people, and how many prophets have claimed to have been approached by God in their dreams? Anyone seen the Virgin Mary on a piece of toast lately?