Do you think that guy was right about 9/11? (America, prophecy)

[MdmSzdWhtGuy]

The Truth,

Female Circumcision. Women under Sharia are basically property.

There is much much more that can be said on this subject, but the above is plenty.

B.

[Feathers in Hair]

Originally Posted by MdmSzdWhtGuy

Don't recall an instance of a person claiming no beleif in supernatural dieties
murdering thousands of other people in the name of the lack of diety.

Try again. It is religious people who do this, not athiests/agnostics.

Fully agree with you, there. I was simply replying to TripleHelix's statement about the actions of a few people who were Muslim being indicative of the actions of the whole faith. For example, it's equivilent to saying that, because ten people were atheists, such-and-such (fictional) attack was an 'Atheist Attack'. I wasn't even mentioning a person doing so because they do or do not believe that a diety wants them to do something.

"Try again"? Perhaps you might consider a kinder way of rephrasing that?

[Merlin]

Originally Posted by MdmSzdWhtGuy

Don't recall an instance of a person claiming no beleif in supernatural dieties murdering thousands of other people in the name of the lack of diety.

B.

Ghengis Khan murdered millions (60m so it is said) and had no religion. In fact he outlawed it. So he killed you to remove your deity, is that murdering in the name of a 'lack of one'. I would guess so.

He was the greatest muderer of all time, without a religion.

He did have over 500 wives and concubines, and 1000's of kids.

[Merlin]

Originally Posted by TripleHelix

There was no mistake on 9/11 that was a MOSLEM attack on america, whether Osama and all his minions are terrorists or not, that was their interpretation of the Koran, and therefore it was a MOSLEM attack on america.

Forgive me, but that is silly. The murderers claimed to be moslem. They tried to elevate their political aims out of the gutter by claiming it was religious. Oh yeh! It was just political and economic envy.

Did the Catholics kill all those who were murdered on Northern Ireland? No, it was a territorial dispute. Again - political.

Saying a faith did it, is an unworthy thing to do.

[Mujahid]

Originally Posted by TripleHelix

Come to think of it, that was absolutely NOT an open or a prophesy of 'Allah'
Prophecies are usually false anyway, and people keep on guessing on them until they are right.
There was no mistake on 9/11 that was a MOSLEM attack on america, whether Osama and all his minions are terrorists or not, that was their interpretation of the Koran, and therefore it was a MOSLEM attack on america.

who told you osama is a moslem,he and his procurer are dogs that are pretending to be islamic heroes and i think he chose to attack america maybe because he was humiliated by the CIA when he used to work with them in the cold war

[michel]

Originally Posted by Mujahid

who told you osama is a moslem,he and his procurer are dogs that are pretending to be islamic heroes and i think he chose to attack america maybe because he was humiliated by the CIA when he used to work with them in the cold war

Well, I hope I don't do the same; I was humiliated by someone i didn't like at school.........

As far as your OP is concerned, it is always easy to make text fit into a prediction after the event happens. Take the Book of Nostradamus; it has been said that that book foretells the whole of the World's history. Yet it is only after an event that people say - look there it is, that proves it.

[Mujahid]

Originally Posted by michel

Well, I hope I don't do the same; I was humiliated by someone i didn't like at school.........

As far as your OP is concerned, it is always easy to make text fit into a prediction after the event happens. Take the Book of Nostradamus; it has been said that that book foretells the whole of the World's history. Yet it is only after an event that people say - look there it is, that proves it.

about you and anyone michel,it's only Allah who can bring you back your right and about that prophecy,how could Muhammad (p.p.b.u.h) write such a precise and detailed description of something that will happen after more than 1400 years?most surely the quran is from God,i've never read the book of Nostradamus and i don't know who he was,but if you can tell us something from his book and explain your opinion then it's ok

[michel]

Well, as I was saying, Nostradamus has been seen as a 'Prophet' by some; and here is an example of what I mean:-

http://www.powertochange.com/peace/a...stradamus.html

Nostradamus' World Trade Center Prophecy?
by Dr. Grant C. Richison

False Prophecy
Some people on Internet Newsgroups claim that the French physician and astrologer, Nostradamus (1503), prophesied the destruction of the World Trade Center.
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Some assert that Nostradamus wrote specifically about the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. They claim that he wrote the following,
"In the City of God there will be great thunder,
Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb." Nostradamus 1654.

This is patently false because Nostradamus died in 1566. This is a blatant hoax. It probably came from a web site written by Neil Marshall in an article called, "A Critical Analysis of Nostradamus." Marshal invented this to show that Nostradamus' writings are obscure enough to mean almost whatever anyone wanted them to mean.

Some assert that the writings of Nostradamus contain the ideas that "two metal birds" will crash into "two tall statues." This is a supposed reference to the two towers and two airplanes crashing into the Trade Center.

"...two metal birds would crash into two tall statues...in the new city... and the world will end soon after" From the book of Nostradamus

This is also a hoax for it cannot be found in his writings and not in his Centuries. He never referred to "two steel birds" or that "the undead will roam the earth."

Another false, current claim has to do with Century 6, Quatrain 97 and asserts that Nostradamus prophesies a Third World War.

"Two steel birds will fall from the sky on the
Metropolis. The sky will burn at forty-five degrees
latitude. Fire approaches the great new city
[New York City lies between 40-45 degrees] Immediately
a huge, scattered flame leaps up. Within months,
rivers will flow with blood. The undead will roam
earth for little time."

This version twists the actual verse by Nostradamus:

"The sky will burn at forty-five degrees latitude,
Fire approaches the great new city
Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up
When they want to have verification from the Normans."

Does Nostradamus predict a third World War?

"In the year of the new century and nine months,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror...
The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
Fire approaches the great new city..."

"In the city of york there will be a great collapse,
2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos
while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb
third big war will begin when the big city is burning"
Nostradamus

Nostradamus wrote very few of these words. The faker draws lines from different quatrains and supplemented with his own words to make them appear like a reference to the World Trade Center. Another fraud.

[Credit for the above analysis goes to Internet site
[http://www.urbanlegends.about.com/li...aa091101b.htm]

Nostradamus leaned heavily on occult divination and horoscopes to enter into ecstatic trances.
Nostradamus mostly framed his prophecies in general and vague terminology. His prophecies can apply to any range of interpretations. This does not measure up to the standards of prophecy set forth in Scripture:

Deuteronomy 18: 9 "When you come into the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. 10 "There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 "or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 "For all who do these things are an abomination to the LORD, and because of these abominations the LORD your God drives them out from before you. 13 "You shall be blameless before the LORD your God. 14 "For these nations which you will dispossess listened to soothsayers and diviners; but as for you, the LORD your God has not appointed such for you."

18: 21 "And if you say in your heart, 'How shall we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?'- 22 "when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him."

Nostradamus' prophesies are vague generalities put forth in cryptic form that can lend themselves to multiple interpretations.

[Darkdale]

Originally Posted by The Truth

You have to know that it's only the work of Media to make the non-Muslims have a phopia when they hear the term ISLAM or MUSLIMS.

Oh c'mon. There have been over 3,000 islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11 and you are telling me that we shouldn't be afraid of radicalized Islam. This isn't just a couple people and these attacks have been some of the most brutal, evil acts
one can imagine. Beheadings, blowing up men, women and children. I believe that this doesn't mean that Islam itself is a violent religion, but it does mean that people should be somewhat more afraid of Muslims than other groups. The fact is, as an American I should be afraid of muslim terrorists; though I am happy to see that some Muslim groups are actually standing up to the terrorists now.

[michel]

Originally Posted by Darkdale

Oh c'mon. There have been over 3,000 islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11 and you are telling me that we shouldn't be afraid of radicalized Islam. This isn't just a couple people and these attacks have been some of the most brutal, evil acts
one can imagine. Beheadings, blowing up men, women and children. I believe that this doesn't mean that Islam itself is a violent religion, but it does mean that people should be somewhat more afraid of Muslims than other groups. The fact is, as an American I should be afraid of muslim terrorists; though I am happy to see that some Muslim groups are actually standing up to the terrorists now.

How right you are - and in doing so, they risk their lives.