Answer to suffering?

[Engyo]

Originally Posted by Victor

Interesting, how then are natural disasters explained?
Thanks
~Victor

Sorry; wrote a long response and it got eaten (another natural disaster oh my!).

Natural disasters are natural. They are only disasters to us humans. They are disastrous only because we insist on living in areas subject to hurricanes, earthquakes, blizzards, floods, forest fires, tsunami, etc. We also insist on forgetting that our civilization is supported by an extremely fragile system; think about what happens to your home area if no truckloads of food, pipeloads of water, etc. come in for two weeks. Very few areas in today's world could survive something like that in any civilized fashion.

[Victor]

Originally Posted by dan

Kinda, but there are qualities of hot and cold that make it a stretch. I can't think of a good analogy except for this: Imagine you go through your whole life having three square meals a day, without exception. You don't question it and you're not very grateful. You don't even think about it, but one day you only get one, and you only get one a day for weeks. You never considered this before, and suddenly you wish you had three all over again (I would probably start crying). You appreciate the three meals all of a sudden. You get three meals on occasion and it makes you really happy. Suddenly one is bad and three is good. Three never made you happy before, but now it does.

Thanks for sharing that but I disagree. Something can exist without making a distiction...

Originally Posted by dan

He didn't understand the guilt of sin or the weight of imperfection. By taking our sins upon Him He learned what it felt like to be a guilty human. This helps Him to empathize with us.

Oh my.. I hope your not saying that God sinned???

~Victor

[Victor]

Originally Posted by Engyo

Sorry; wrote a long response and it got eaten (another natural disaster oh my!).

Natural disasters are natural. They are only disasters to us humans. They are disastrous only because we insist on living in areas subject to hurricanes, earthquakes, blizzards, floods, forest fires, tsunami, etc. We also insist on forgetting that our civilization is supported by an extremely fragile system; think about what happens to your home area if no truckloads of food, pipeloads of water, etc. come in for two weeks. Very few areas in today's world could survive something like that in any civilized fashion.

Thanks Engyo, but Im not sure what area in the world has no natural disasters. Most all do.

~Victor

[Ernesto]

Originally Posted by Victor

Oh my.. I hope your not saying that God sinned???

Don't mean to get personal, but perhaps you need to chill a little whenever someone disagrees with your strict religious views.

Mankind is destructve. God created mankind. Perhaps God has sinned?

[Victor]

Originally Posted by Ernesto

Don't mean to get personal, but perhaps you need to chill a little whenever someone disagrees with your strict religious views.

Mankind is destructve. God created mankind. Perhaps God has sinned?

Ernesto, thanks for trying to cool me down but I wasn't even in a high state of emotion at all. It was a question that I had no idea Mormons held.
But thanks for your ancient argument of "it's God's fault".

~Victor

[Engyo]

Originally Posted by Victor

Thanks Engyo, but Im not sure what area in the world has no natural disasters. Most all do.

~Victor

That's right. So all we can do is accept that these things happen, and try to deal with them the best we can. Blaming them on deities, or on the morals of the people living in the subject area, seems unproductive to me.

[dan]

Originally Posted by Victor

Thanks for sharing that but I disagree. Something can exist without making a distiction...
Oh my.. I hope your not saying that God sinned???

~Victor

He took our sins upon Him. He carried them for us. He never sinned, but the sacrifice would have meant nothing unless He was weighed down with all of our sins. He experienced all that we experience.

[Victor]

Originally Posted by Engyo

That's right. So all we can do is accept that these things happen, and try to deal with them the best we can. Blaming them on deities, or on the morals of the people living in the subject area, seems unproductive to me.

Very true...

~Victor

[Ernesto]

Originally Posted by Victor

Ernesto, thanks for trying to cool me down but I wasn't even in a high state of emotion at all. It was a question that I had no idea Mormons held.
But thanks for your ancient argument of "it's God's fault".

~Victor

I'm not sayign it's God's fault. How can I believe it's God's fault when I don't believe in God?

[Victor]

Originally Posted by Ernesto

I'm not sayign it's God's fault. How can I believe it's God's fault when I don't believe in God?

What was this:
"Mankind is destructve. God created mankind. Perhaps God has sinned?"
Am I missing something?

~Victor