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Old 07-25-2005, 09:59 PM
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It's hard for me...because around my fellow dinosaur center employees, I hate answering religious questions with 'I don't know.' And, around fellow Christians, I hate answers scientific questions with 'I don't know.' Neither side seems to be willing to accept that one person can't know all the answers. And that's a very wrong attitude, imho. :/
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Old 07-25-2005, 10:06 PM
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Now, this is going to be a huge generalization... but...

Why can't a theist say "I don't know" ?
I don't have a problem with "I don't know"....but I find that some non-theists want us to say "I don't know" even when we do know and try to back up our beliefs with the bible because they (the non-theists) don't view it as a legitimate source.
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To Know inplies you can prove some thing
To have Faith means you truly Believe some thing.
To love is another corner of the same triangle.

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Old 07-26-2005, 05:15 AM
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to Know and have Faith are not the same.
To Know inplies you can prove some thing
To have Faith means you truly Believe some thing.
To love is another corner of the same triangle.

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As usual, I find myself agreeing with you Terry. As far as I am concerned I do not know what God is like - I can have no conception of him; I have faith in some of his attributes - such as 'Love', and the incredible complexity of Nature (His creation, now evolved).

For me, there is no need to 'know' - I'll stick to my Faith...
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Now, this is going to be a huge generalization... but...

Why can't a theist say "I don't know" ? Yes I know that you don't all have a problem with these three words... But when pressed about a topic, a theist seems to be more prone to give reason why their god did this or that instead of saying "Well he didn't quite inform me of why he did that."

I just found this interesting because it is my belief that religion came about because people didn't like not knowing why things happened so instead of just living with it, they came up with false reasons of why things happen. Seeing how the theists respond to some questions makes me believe they have a hard time saying I don't know and it just strengthens my belief.
Well, we Orthodox actually say 'I don't know' or a variant, 'It's a Mystery', an awful lot. Given that we prefer apophatic theology to cataphatic (which means we emphasise how 'other' and therefore incomprehensible God is) you could almost say that saying 'I don't know' is the lynchpin of our theology.

We simply don't go in for dogmatising everything like some Christians do. So, for instance, we do believe in the Real Presence in the Eucharist, but whereas the Lutherans explain their belief as consubstantiation and the RCs as transsubstantiation, if you ask an Orthodox Christian you're more likely to get an answer like. 'It's been revealed to us that Christ is present in the Eucharist but we haven't been told how. Why do you want to know? Just accept it as a Mystery.' It's not an attitude I came across amongst western Christians who do tend to be more rational and analytical (though by no means all of them are).

I think that rather than directing your question at 'theists' it would be better off directed at 'westerners', because I see the same sort of attitude in many westerners re. non-religious subjects also. I'm one (except in the religious realm) I hate not knowing the answer to a question.

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Wow... everyone said they have no problem with saying I don't know. Yet I can't recall a time when a theist actually said I don't know. I've seen theists even proclaim that they know what god is thinking before saying I don't know.
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Wow... everyone said they have no problem with saying I don't know. Yet I can't recall a time when a theist actually said I don't know. I've seen theists even proclaim that they know what god is thinking before saying I don't know.
Okay, first off, I did say that. I said that for me it's fun to speculate. Secondly, I'm sorry you haven't seen that enough, but I have. There are people out there who are religious and aren't know-it-alls.
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I've never felt there was anyone who was afraid to say "I don't know" because none of us know everything or will EVER know everything.


Perhaps the reason we theists(or anyone else for that matter), don't say I don't know is because this is a debate situation and if we don't know why respond to a post to just say "I don't know"...It would seem a little useless to just respond in that manner. Perhaps we all respond with I don't know by Not responding to a thread???
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I have no problem with saying I don't know . In fact, I only know 2 things. That I exist and that the previous sentence is fact .
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