God Debate (Jesus, moral, Creator, beliefs, choice)

[chuck010342]

Originally Posted by Tawn

The alternative position is to accept that complexity can develop from simplicity.

has that ever been shown to happen?

[Linus]

Originally Posted by chuck010342

1 Peter 3:15 does tell us to be prepared to answer anybody who asks us. We need to find the answers and to be ready to answer people. It doesn't give us all the answers thats what God is for.

I am prepared for the most part. That is why I am here on these forums. That is why I post on threads like these. So I can give an account for the faith that is in me. But there are some questions to which we simply don't know the answer because we are not told the answer. We can only know about God that which He has revealed to us. Does this mean I am in violation of 1 Peter 3:15?

[pandamonk]

Originally Posted by chuck010342

1 Peter 3:15 does tell us to be prepared to answer anybody who asks us. We need to find the answers and to be ready to answer people. It doesn't give us all the answers thats what God is for.

Does this mean if you cannot answer a question your god will answer for you? What if your god doesn't? does that mean you god doesn't exist or just that he cannot be bothered? What i'm saying is you should be able to answer every possible question. So could you look at my earlier posts and answer my unanswered points eg. " Omniscience(infinite knowledge)knows everything there is to know. Not just about what they are doing but about what they will do infinitely into the future and infinitely into the past. Knowing everything that has and will happen and all the stuff in between. Knowing everything there is to know about everything! So if you know everything u will do in the future right from the begining of ur existence (infinitely in the past) then you have always known what you are going to do. Even if you change your mind, you would have known right from the start you wer going to change you mind. Everything is predestined to God so he is powerless to change it and if he thinks he has he hasnt because it was going to tunr out like that anyway. It's confussing i know. It is impossible even. That is why, i feel, a gods existence is impossible"? And also answer me this, what are next weeks lotto numbers? lol (just kidding)

[pandamonk]

Originally Posted by chuck010342

has that ever been shown to happen?

Everywhere!all the time!take a foetus, it starts off as two cells and gradually grows to a living baby, which after birth grows further. Even take your religion, man came from dust did he not? is dust not simple compared to humankind? a simple crack in the earths surface can cause all sorts of complexities, earthquakes, tsunamis etc.

[pandamonk]

Originally Posted by Linus

We can only know about God that which He has revealed to us

what, personally, has your god revealed to you, and in what form did that come and is there no other explanation you can think of for it?

[chuck010342]

Originally Posted by pandamonk

Everywhere!all the time!take a foetus, it starts off as two cells and gradually grows to a living baby, which after birth grows further. Even take your religion, man came from dust did he not? is dust not simple compared to humankind? a simple crack in the earths surface can cause all sorts of complexities, earthquakes, tsunamis etc.

let me rephrase the question.

Do you see this happening spontaniously without any intelligence being put on information?

[chuck010342]

Originally Posted by Linus

I am prepared for the most part. That is why I am here on these forums. That is why I post on threads like these. So I can give an account for the faith that is in me. But there are some questions to which we simply don't know the answer because we are not told the answer. We can only know about God that which He has revealed to us. Does this mean I am in violation of 1 Peter 3:15?

Thats what an apologetic is for to answer questions. I might have some answers. If you don't know just suspend Judgment for a while untill you come up with the answer.

[Linus]

Originally Posted by pandamonk

what, personally, has your god revealed to you, and in what form did that come

Im speaking of the Bible. God has revealed the Bible to us and It is not up to us to speak beyond what it says.

Originally Posted by pandamonk

and is there no other explanation you can think of for it?

What exactly do you mean?

[Linus]

Originally Posted by chuck010342

If you don't know just suspend Judgment for a while untill you come up with the answer.

So how, then, am I in volation of 1 Peter 3:15? All I said was that I do not know the answer.

[Mister Emu]

unanswered points eg. " Omniscience(infinite knowledge)knows everything there is to know. Not just about what they are doing but about what they will do infinitely into the future and infinitely into the past. Knowing everything that has and will happen and all the stuff in between. Knowing everything there is to know about everything! So if you know everything u will do in the future right from the begining of ur existence (infinitely in the past) then you have always known what you are going to do. Even if you change your mind, you would have known right from the start you wer going to change you mind. Everything is predestined to God so he is powerless to change it and if he thinks he has he hasnt because it was going to tunr out like that anyway. It's confussing i know. It is impossible even. That is why, i feel, a gods existence is impossible"? And also answer me this, what are next weeks lotto numbers? lol (just kidding)

As I have previously posted, it is my belief that God is outside of time, thus distinctions of time(past, present, future) do not exist for Him(my belief). If God exists in what we call the future, it is not so much that He knows what we are going to do, as much as it is knowing what we have done.