God Debate (Jesus, moral, Creator, beliefs, choice)

[Scott1]

Originally Posted by pandamonk

Ok Adam and Eve i love that story, lol.

Me too.... I just don't read it literally.... you might wanna try that.

[pandamonk]

Originally Posted by Mister Emu

On omniscience,
God exists outside of time, thus there is no past, present, future for Him. He exists in all time at the same time, so when He knows the future, it is because He has already been there, He knows what He is going to do because He has already done it.

provide me with valid evidence, if not then your point is totally worthless.

Books are called:

• Atheism: The Case Against God

• The impossibility of God

• The Dark Side of Christian History

and yes i do have that video. A documentary done by a Christian to find the true writers of the bible. And found out a lot more about it on his quest.

[Scott1]

Originally Posted by stemann

please, please, please, tell me the difference between this and the knowledge of good and evil.

I'm sure that Mr Emu will have a great answer....but my two cents: the tree represents dominion over good and evil, not just knowledge of what is or is not good/evil. This symbolic discourse shows that man must rely on God, not serve his/her self.

Scott

[pandamonk]

Originally Posted by SOGFPP

Me too.... I just don't read it literally.... you might wanna try that.

Ok so how do you decide what stories to read literally and what stories not to and why? is it the impossible ones you look for the true meaning and the more believable ones you take literally? Why not take the whole book as one big metaphor? But you can't do that because then it is worthless. It's just another book. Many books have underlying meanings. So what you take metaphorically someone else might take literally or vice-vera. Knowone knows the right way to take it(the way it was intended). So It really has to be one or the other. You choose.

[Scott1]

Originally Posted by pandamonk

Ok so how do you decide what stories to read literally and what stories not to and why? is it the impossible ones you look for the true meaning and the more believable ones you take literally? Why not take the whole book as one big metaphor? But you can't do that because then it is worthless. It's just another book. Many books have underlying meanings. So what you take metaphorically someone else might take literally or vice-vera. Knowone knows the right way to take it(the way it was intended). So It really has to be one or the other. You choose.

Is there an actual question in there?

[pandamonk]

Originally Posted by SOGFPP

Is there an actual question in there?

probably,lol

[pandamonk]

try reading it

[pandamonk]

why not answer a question at a time and see what happens?

[Tawn]

Originally Posted by SOGFPP

Is there an actual question in there?

For example most Christians take the story of Jesus literally, yet much of it could be allegorical - even if such a person existed. That might be one he meant..

[pandamonk]

sorry if i confussed everyone. i meant to ask questions but make a point at the same time.