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Old 08-02-2012, 05:17 PM
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God still has plans for Israel concerning Israel here is some definitive Scriptures. The bible says in Romans 11:25-29For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:For this [is] my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, [they are] enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, [they are] beloved for the fathers' sakes For the gifts and calling of God [are] without repentance Replacement theology is not in the bible we as gentiles were grafted in not that we replace Gods plan for Israel. As far as the 144,000 were does it say that what you are claiming? It does how ever say this: In Revelations 7:4-8
And I heard the number of them which were sealed: [and there were] sealed an hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel
Of the tribe of Juda [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad [were] sealed twelve thousand
Of the tribe of Aser [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses [were] sealed twelve thousand.
Of the tribe of Simeon [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar [were] sealed twelve thousand
Of the tribe of Zabulon [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin [were] sealed twelve thousand. I am sorry allegorical interpretations concerning Israel and his plan for Israel is not biblical.

If one compares the twelve tribes named in the ot--they find that their are two different tribes named in Revelation showing it is not literal but spiritual israel( Gods chosen) being spoken of. Israel was cut off upon the renting of the banner at Jesus death.
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:16 PM
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The JW,s know exactly what Gods word teaches, they live by it daily to the best of their ability. We know what king David knew--The righteous will possess the earth and reside forever upon it. The JW,s look forward to living in Gods kingdom on the earth in Paradise.
Do you believe that one has to be a JW to make it to this paradise on earth?
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:18 PM
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[quote=Nakosis;3022400]Do you believe that one has to be a JW to make it to this paradise on earth?[/quote

All true servants of God serve Jehovah alone as God, but also do obesiance to our king Jesus. They live to do his will just like Jesus did. 1 John 2:17-- Matt 7:21,22-- Jesus said at John 17:1-6--- This means eternal life, their taking in knowledge of you( Father = Jehovah) and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ-- in verse 6 the name is Jehovah. In the Lords prayer--the name is Jehovah.( hallowed be thy name)
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Old 08-04-2012, 04:31 AM
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Who doesn't like to pretend to be drinking a dead man's blood and eating his flesh?

Seriously though, I think that it's for any Christian basically, but I've heard that if you have some sin on your mind to take it to Jesus first and get it sorted out before you have communion... at least that is one take on the part about some that shouldnt be part of it, which is a temporary state.

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Old 08-06-2012, 04:26 PM
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Do you believe that one has to be a JW to make it to this paradise on earth?[/quote

All true servants of God serve Jehovah alone as God, but also do obesiance to our king Jesus. They live to do his will just like Jesus did. 1 John 2:17-- Matt 7:21,22-- Jesus said at John 17:1-6--- This means eternal life, their taking in knowledge of you( Father = Jehovah) and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ-- in verse 6 the name is Jehovah. In the Lords prayer--the name is Jehovah.( hallowed be thy name)
And what do you see as God's will? I get the impression from Christians that it's along the lines of going with the flow, so to speak. Basically any necessary guidance will be provided to them. God will open or close doors for them.
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And what do you see as God's will? I get the impression from Christians that it's along the lines of going with the flow, so to speak. Basically any necessary guidance will be provided to them. God will open or close doors for them.

Gods will is this--- God teaches Jesus-- Jesus teaches his lead teachers on earth in one single religion, united in love and peace worldwide.( The faithful and discreet slave whom Jesus appointed over all of his belongings( flock) to give spiritual food at the proper time. they teach the flock the will of God. Its all in his written word--some disguised, some plain.
Going with the flow of what??? Jesus said-- you will be hated because you are no part of this world.
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If one compares the twelve tribes named in the ot--they find that their are two different tribes named in Revelation showing it is not literal but spiritual israel( Gods chosen) being spoken of. Israel was cut off upon the renting of the banner at Jesus death.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:46 PM
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Who doesn't like to pretend to be drinking a dead man's blood and eating his flesh?

Seriously though, I think that it's for any Christian basically, but I've heard that if you have some sin on your mind to take it to Jesus first and get it sorted out before you have communion... at least that is one take on the part about some that shouldnt be part of it, which is a temporary state.

disclaimer: I'm not a Christian, but once was
That is about how catholics see it. I don't think it is supposed to atone your sins or anything, I think even Judas was allowed to partake. Jesus just said to do it in remembrance as many people at the table had sinned and would continue to sin.
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That is about how catholics see it. I don't think it is supposed to atone your sins or anything, I think even Judas was allowed to partake. Jesus just said to do it in remembrance as many people at the table had sinned and would continue to sin.

Judas was dismissed before Jesus taught the members of the little flock to partake of the body and blood.
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