Adultery in christianity

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by ChristineES

I know they're there, I just never heard anyone say they supplanted the first 10 commandments.
As for the rest of it, that is a whole other debate.

I think they're largely ignored by Christians because they're a rather inconvenient inconsistency. The passage starts out with God saying that he'll write the words of the original Ten Commandments on the new tablets, but what ends up getting written on them is nothing like the originals. There's only one that's in any way similar:

21 “You shall work six days, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during plowing time and harvest you shall rest.

[ChristineES]

There is a difference, in my opinion, between saying all of The Law is part of the commandments and saying that later commandments supplanted the first 10 that Moses gave.

But really, (Sorry for going so off topic), is there anyone who actually follows all The Laws in the Books of Moses or whatever the Law is? I've heard people say that the books of Moses aren't even the Torah. Does anyone sacrifice bulls, lambs, cakes of various "fruits" of the harvest, and so on? And it's not just sacrifice- there is a woman being put out of the camp during her monthly time and things of that nature, too. Although I am Jewish by birth (my mother's mother was Jewish), I am pretty ignorant of much of it- outside of some of the Holy Days (like Sabbath, Festival of Lights, the Seder meal and Passover, and things like that). I thought of actually converting to Judaism, but since I believe in Jesus, that is a strike against it.
Again, sorry for going so off topic.

[s2a]

Originally Posted by FearGod

The bible clarified that adultery is a sin and that we shouldn't commit adultery.

My question to christians.

Do christians follow the commandment ? if not,then why they are still called christians.

Might I suggest that you look over the books of Deuteronomy and Leviticus before you remove the beam of hypocrisy from another sinner's eye first?

Just a suggestion....

[InsurgoInsurgiInsurrect]

Originally Posted by ChristineES

There is a difference, in my opinion, between saying all of The Law is part of the commandments and saying that later commandments supplanted the first 10 that Moses gave.

But really, (Sorry for going so off topic), is there anyone who actually follows all The Laws in the Books of Moses or whatever the Law is? I've heard people say that the books of Moses aren't even the Torah. Does anyone sacrifice bulls, lambs, cakes of various "fruits" of the harvest, and so on? And it's not just sacrifice- there is a woman being put out of the camp during her monthly time and things of that nature, too. Although I am Jewish by birth (my mother's mother was Jewish), I am pretty ignorant of much of it- outside of some of the Holy Days (like Sabbath, Festival of Lights, the Seder meal and Passover, and things like that). I thought of actually converting to Judaism, but since I believe in Jesus, that is a strike against it.
Again, sorry for going so off topic.

I would argue your beliefs in Jesus has more to do with your upbringing and exposure and personal sentiments and are no more valid than others that discount jesus and believe in either Aztec gods or Nothing.

Aztecs sacrificed people and other faiths animals and no faiths sacrificed their time to argue with people with faiths in ancient books.

Everyone sacrifices something eventually. Moses is obviously a story told to people ready to believe it... as is every other religion. Look at the passion of your fellow forum members or your celebrity believers in various faiths.

No one is going to question that Tom Cruise REALLY believes in Scientology but how does their commitment to their belief end up registering as anything more than their personal opinion that a particular ice cream flavor is the best...

Yeah Chocolate and Vanilla have the most followers but Moose Tracks is damn good too. More people knowing about chocolate or vanilla or stating it is their preferred choice means what? Does it mean Chocolate and Vanilla ice cream taste the best is a true statement we should write holy books about and defend as our beliefs or does that tell us more about what we are inclined to believe.... After all we walk around every day with beach ball sized blind spots in both eyes and never notice a thing... what else do we assume and never notice?

Is Tom less enthusiastic about his faith? Are people committed to kill themselves to prove their faith less committed? Does being committed to a faith hold any value in determining whether a particular faith is true? Trying to explain how a person turned water to wine or turned dead people back to living people should invoke a certain amount of skepticism that must be ignored to continue believing that stone age people could perform magic that is now long forgotten... It requires a certain level of ignorance of how small the earth or even the milky way is in terms of the universe if the universe is really all there is and is perhaps just a product of a multiverse representing one of near an infinity possible outcomes... How much time did god according to the bible take to create the entire universe compared to creating the earth?

I'm not discounting your faith just offering another flawed point of view that I have. (I no more consider my view true than I do yours...)

[ChristineES]

I would argue your beliefs in Jesus has more to do with your upbringing and exposure and personal sentiments and are no more valid than others that discount Jesus and believe in either Aztec gods or Nothing.

There is one flaw with that: I was raised by an atheist mother- she was an atheist until I was about 17 years old. Sure, most of my friends were "Christians" (they were kids, they went to Church but they never talked about Jesus or anything like that). I went to Church twice as a child with friends, but I don't recall much about the sermons. My stepfather was raised Buddhist and I heard more about Buddhism than I ever heard about Christianity outside of kids talking about whether they were Catholic or Protestant (I was terribly disturbed when they asked me that question because I was neither and I didn't really know what they meant (I was about 7 or 8).

None of that really matters now, though, except I think I would prefer to be Jewish. I enjoyed going to a Synagogue on the occasions I went, more so than any Christian Church, although why, I don't know.

[FearGod]

Originally Posted by Me Myself

It´s simple:

Have any of you managed to stop 100% the lusting after women that are not your wives?

If you havent you continually commit adultery according to Jesus, wasn´t it?

Then according to your words, you cannot be christians, yes?

Yes,not obeying Jesus commandments will mean that i don't like to follow jesus religion which instruct me not to commit an adultery.

We can control our lust,if not,then our lust will control us and that is IMO a calamity.

[ChristineES]

I can notice a good looking man without feeling any lust towards him, lust isn't noticing- it's wanting to "lay down" with him- and we can control that. You can't stop attraction, but attraction isn't lust, either. Something to keep in mind.

[InsurgoInsurgiInsurrect]

Originally Posted by ChristineES

There is one flaw with that: I was raised by an atheist mother- she was an atheist until I was about 17 years old. Sure, most of my friends were "Christians" (they were kids, they went to Church but they never talked about Jesus or anything like that). I went to Church twice as a child with friends, but I don't recall much about the sermons. My stepfather was raised Buddhist and I heard more about Buddhism than I ever heard about Christianity outside of kids talking about whether they were Catholic or Protestant (I was terribly disturbed when they asked me that question because I was neither and I didn't really know what they meant (I was about 7 or 8).

None of that really matters now, though, except I think I would prefer to be Jewish. I enjoyed going to a Synagogue on the occasions I went, more so than any Christian Church, although why, I don't know.

You don't know. Your argument is that is was not your upbringing but rather because you don't know.

Which is fine. I am just going to say this. Maybe it wasn't your parents but your environment. America is majority christian so being born in america and saying you believe in christ is about as surprising as being born in utah and believing in joseph smith or being born in Indonesia or Pakistan as a muslim.

You can rationalize how you got there but bottom line you are not a great believer in Allah, Aphrodite or Ra. Why is it you think?

[Me Myself]

Originally Posted by FearGod

Yes,not obeying Jesus commandments will mean that i don't like to follow jesus religion which instruct me not to commit an adultery.

We can control our lust,if not,then our lust will control us and that is IMO a calamity.

So, since you are a christian, you never have had an erection by looking at a sexy woman?

Have you had an erection before?

Not that there is anything wrong with asexuality

[4consideration]

Originally Posted by FearGod

The bible clarified that adultery is a sin and that we shouldn't commit adultery.

My question to christians.

Do christians follow the commandment ? if not,then why they are still called christians.

I have no idea what other people do, or why they really do it. I consider other people's sex lives to be none of my darned business.

I see no problem with you refraining from using the term "christian" until you stop committing adultery if you are actually doing it now -- if you think that is correct and makes you feel better. I will not apply that as a standard to other people. But I will support your right to your own perspective, and I will back you up -- but only in applying it to yourself.

As far as I am aware, Jesus never used the term "christian" so any authority over the use of the term is self-assumed, anyway. Many people use it in many different ways.