If Jesus did return invisibly to earth in 1914?

[miss interpret]

Wouldn't there be signs to show this happened.

[Pegg]

Originally Posted by miss interpret

Wouldn't there be signs to show this happened.

there are signs that Jesus gave for his disciples to know when that time had arrived, yes.

Matthew 24:“Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?” 4 And in answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet. 7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress. 9 “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name. 10 Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. 13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.


There is also the mathematical calculation of the prophecy of Daniel. This gives the year of Christ being enthroned in heaven as October 1914.

[james2ko]

Originally Posted by Pegg

there are signs that Jesus gave for his disciples to know when that time had arrived, yes.

Matthew 24:“Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?” 4 And in answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet. 7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress. 9 “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name. 10 Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. 13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.


There is also the mathematical calculation of the prophecy of Daniel. This gives the year of Christ being enthroned in heaven as October 1914.

Wasn't that a bit arbitrary on Mr Russells part to just add 70 years to the failed 2nd coming of 1844? Then when Christ didn't return in 1914, Mr Russell used the same excuse his former church used for His failed return in 1844--He came invisibly. Doesn't it state that "every" eye will see Him when He does return? (Rev 1:7)

[Sunstone]

Originally Posted by I care

The jw version is just Charlie Russell's version, nothing to do with the real god IMHO

And you know that to be the truth because...of what?

[tumbleweed41]

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[Gjallarhorn]

Originally Posted by I care

I've read a bit about the jw's.

...and?

[Sunstone]

Originally Posted by I care

I've read a bit about the jw's.

So what? Reading about the JWs would not seem to provide much in the way of evidence that the Catholic Church was the one true Church founded by God. In fact, it would appear on the face of it grossly illogical to assert that the errors or whatnot of the JWs proved the truth of Catholic propaganda.