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Old 12-05-2011, 09:55 AM
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What's funny to me is how some Christians and Muslims fight over this topic. They're highly concerned with who's growing faster, and who has the most adherent's, as if it's a testament to which one is more correct. Some seem to have the idea that if they have the most adherents, then that means that they are the right and true religion. It's odd...
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What's funny to me is how some Christians and Muslims fight over this topic. They're highly concerned with who's growing faster, and who has the most adherent's, as if it's a testament to which one is more correct. Some seem to have the idea that if they have the most adherents, then that means that they are the right and true religion. It's odd...
Of course, what really matters is durability. Long before today's religions arose, & long after
they'll be gone or transformed into something else, atheists & agnostics will still be around.
Our numbers are smaller, but we have staying power.
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:59 AM
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Yes, they now have a higher growth rate. However, they are still gaining fewer adherents than Christianity is. The two do not equal.
I never said otherwise.

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Growth rate is only one factor.
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Also, Islam hasn't always had a higher growth rate.
I never said that it did.

It is reasonable to say that numerically, Islam has experienced very large growth since its founding, and that it offers a substantial challenge to Christianity.
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It is reasonable to say that numerically, Islam has experienced very large growth since its founding, and that it offers a substantial challenge to Christianity.
In what ways do you think that is poses a challenge to Christianity?
also, I wonder should we consider a too high natural growth as a positive thing? I think that a solid population without dramatic demographic shift can prove to be more stable.

anther extra question that's been on my mind. what are the positive attributes of conversion?
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:16 AM
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Lots of statements being made but an inverse amount of evidence to prove them.
This is perhaps the most insightful comment in the thread.

In regards to the OP, Is the growth of Islam really outpacing the continued growth of Christianity? I'd love to see some real proof that it is. Me? I'm not so sure.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:20 AM
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In what ways do you think that it poses a challenge to Christianity?
Largely, numerically since large numbers of people can provide challenges in many ways, including political elections, and financial resources.
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In what ways do you think that is poses a challenge to Christianity?
also, I wonder should we consider a too high natural growth as a positive thing? I think that a solid population without dramatic demographic shift can prove to be more stable.

anther extra question that's been on my mind. what are the positive attributes of conversion?
I completely agree with this.


Personally, I would like to see Christianity slow down a bit and instead of trying to gain more followers, think about the religion as a whole. I would say the same thing about Islam. I think there is much too much focus on expansion and not enough focus on betterment.
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Numerically.
Why does that matter though?
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Why does that matter though?
Large numbers of people frequently have lots of various kinds of power and influence due to their large size.
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I completely agree with this.


Personally, I would like to see Christianity slow down a bit and instead of trying to gain more followers, think about the religion as a whole..
I whole heartedly agree.
I wonder in previous centuries how many lay persons like me, who are secular Jews (hah secular in previous centuries) found the Christian scriptures so profoundly fascinating. I think Christianity has an enormous base of knowledge and history to think about and to explore without conversion on superficial basis.
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