Only One True Religion (Jesus, tradition, Revelation, bible, verse)

[jewscout]

Originally Posted by EiNsTeiN

We Abrahamic religions believe in the same God...but since we worship Him, we must obey His orders, and apply His laws the He proposed to us...

It's not just that I love God, and enough....if u really love Him, then do what he orders u to do...by this way He will accept u in His paradise..
got my point?

that's all well and good but as i have pointed out, the Torah, gospels and Quran do not line up regarding laws and commandments, they are different.
as i have stated before, if G-d, or an angel sent by G-d, came to Muhammed and said that it was time for a message to be given to the Ishmaelites, fine that's their message, and so long as it falls w/in the bounds of the Noahidic code then i got no problem w/ it.
But HaShem gave the Torah to the Israelites, that is their covenant w/ HaShem for all time, not to be changed or tweeked in any way.

it's a prespective view...every religion believes it's the only one...but if we agreed with one God, then we are half way to our united religion..

judaism believes that ethical monotheism is the right way, but not specifically Judaism being the right way for all.

we need to think first about God, and the common things between religions, and who knows, we may discover one religion that is the true one with respect to all these religions..

no i think we will find commonality but that to each family, each nation, each religion contains different experiences w/ the Divine force. This is not necessarily a bad thing, it's just an apples and oranges thing.

[hanif]

ALL THE DIVINE RELIGIONS CAME FROM GOD.BUT THEY WERE DETORTED.SO GOD SENT KORAN
44.It was We who revealed the Torah (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islám) to Allah's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and sell not My signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are unbelievers. 45.We ordained therein for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are wrong-doers. 46.And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Torah that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Torah that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah. 47.Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel. 48.To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a Law and an Open Way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute;

[Booko]

Originally Posted by jewscout

that's all well and good but as i have pointed out, the Torah, gospels and Quran do not line up regarding laws and commandments, they are different.

Very true, but the laws and commandments should probably be different, because the times and places in which those Books were sent were different.
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HaShem may not change, but people and their civilizations definitely do.

[hanif]

Very true, but the laws and commandments should probably be different, because the times and places in which those Books were sent were different
THIS VERSE IS VERY GOOD AND TRUE.
RELIGION COME STEP STEP.FIRST STEP TORAH SECOND GOSPEL AND THE LAST KORAN.
44.It was We who revealed the Torah (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islám) to Allah's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and sell not My signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are unbelievers.

[jewscout]

and yet the Torah calls the Mitzvot an eternal decree for your generations...

i wasn't aware eternity had a shelf life

[hanif]

If You Read Koran You Can See This Is The Sound Of Elohim.

[Ody]

Originally Posted by hanif

If You Read Koran You Can See This Is The Sound Of Elohim.

I read the Koran and threw it away. Stop trying to get others to convert to your religion DAMN YOU!

I CAME HERE TO LEARN ABOUT OTHER RELIGIONS, NOT TO BE PREACHED TO!!!!!!!

[Scarlett Wampus]

We are one people, but for there to be one true religion? I think we are far from that.

Earlier today I posted an article by Ken Wilber on Integral Spirituality in the Religious Debates section. In another article by him called 'Which level of God do you believe in?' he summarises Jean Gebster's levels of human development. Here is an excerpt: -

"An archaic God sees divinity in any strong instinctual force. A magic God locates divine power in the human ego and its magical capacity to change the animistic world with rituals and spells. A mythic God is located not on this earth but in a heavenly paradise not of this world, entrance to which is gained by living according to the covenants and rules given by this God to his peoples. A mental God is a rational God, a demythologized Ground of Being that underlies all forms of existence. And an integral God is one that embraces all of the above."

To even approach a 'one true religion' I think Christianity, Judaism and Islam will have to generally acknowledge that they are part of a much wider spirituality that encompasses many other religions and worldviews, and that the validity of those religions/worldviews is not inferior, but can actually be complementary, to their own versions of the truth. We have a situation where the Abrahamic religions are too stuck in the Mythic God phase. This is unnecessary.

[jewscout]

Originally Posted by hanif

If You Read Koran You Can See This Is The Sound Of Elohim.

that still doesn't address the issue that there are inherent contraditions between the content of the Torah, the Gospels and the Quran.
and you have brought me nothing except "the quran is right" to prove otherwise.

your book is for you, mine for me.

why can't that be good enough for people?

[Booko]

Originally Posted by Scarlett Wampus

We have a situation where the Abrahamic religions are too stuck in the Mythic God phase. This is unnecessary.

Excellent post, SW.

fwiw, the Baha'i Faith is an Abrahamic religion too.