Why would God send good people to Hell just because they dont believe he exists?

[Thesavorofpan]

Originally Posted by LuisDantas

Why would God choose to give us the capability for moral judgement if it was never meant to be used?

For the same reason he does anything. It entertains him.

[Snowcat]

Originally Posted by Lord_Dweedle

Im going to get straight to the point.

I am no Athiest. I believe there IS a higher power but I do not believe he is as wrathful as most Church's make him/her out to be.

What gets me angry about alot of Church's is that unless you follow their particular way of worship you will go to hell. What kind of rubbish is this? I thought Jesus taught people to love thy neighbor not judgeing them on Race or Religion? Or am I wrong here?

Nearly all people who participate in Church are very Judgemental, I have been told numerous times by Christians I will go to Hell if I dont change my ways..

LordDweedel
I Don't Smoke
I Don't Gamble
I Do Partake in Alcohol but I Don't get drunk or drink to get drunk
I am a Virgin so no Sex either
I do not commit crimes

I guess they judge me wicked because I don't go to Church?
But why should I go to Church? How does going to Church make me more good?

I think God doe's Exist but I dont believe he will send people to Hell (If that place even exists) simply for " not believing in him " or not following a specific Church's practice.

Heres a Scenario.
(None of this is real it is made up as an example)

Jeff is a 43 year old man with 3 Kids aged 3,9 and 16 and a 39 year old Wife named Brenda.

Jeff is driveing home from work on a rainy night and a Truck who is driveing too fast lose's control and Smashes into Jeff's car. Killing him Instantly.

The Driver of the Truck is Arrested, Trialed and Sent to Prison for Manslaughter.

Jeff was a loveing Husband and Father and a great Friend to many.

Jeff was involved in many Charitys and raised lots of money to help Kids with disabilitys.

Jeff was an Athiest and did not believe in any god.

Uh Oh! Jeff did not believe God existed! Any Church Zealot would condemn him to Hell for this ungodly Sin...

My point is I cannot imagine God saying this.

Jeff. " But im not a Bad Person! ive made mistakes in life like a normal Human being but ive given most of my life to help people! "

God. " To bad you didn't believe in me so now you will burn in Hell for all Eternity "
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God would not Punish anyone for being a Good Person. Never.
Shame on you for believing he would.
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And for anyone who is too lazy to read this the Question is pretty much.

Why would God send people to Hell for being Good Careing Decent people?

Lord_Dweedle. Eternal Damnation is a lie. I CAN HELP YOU.



Start by reading Acts 3:21

[ellenjanuary]

Ain't no hell. Tried to discuss this with a Christian, who about wigged. "If Hitler ain't burning in hell, what's the point?" And I'm like, the heck does Hitler have to do with you living your life like a decent human being?

But that about kilt it. I'm in a state of flux where the real world is getting really annoying. Had some pastor at my front door insisting that "we must talk about hell" after I straight told him, being born again in Spirit means eternal life begins now...

But he had no answer for me, he had gospel; and I had to allow him to continue living. Which I sometimes regret, seriously. I get - a little whack - when I begin to explain to people about why hell cannot exist; sometimes the Devil Within wants out - drag the fool into the eternal, see what's what.

[wordmagnifiedabovenames]

In regards to judgement in reference to the "Jeff" example in the OP (who was an atheist, but what the world would call a "good" person, who died in a car accident...)

Perhaps God says something along the lines of:
"I'm God (surprise, I do exist,) you're Jeff.
I'm perfect, holy, without sin etc... You're not.
I live in a place called Heaven, where only perfect, holy, blameless etc. people can be.
What is it about you, Jeff, that makes you perfect, holy, blameless etc. enough to enter Heaven? All those 'good' things you've done? Because you didn't have faith, I, God, the one who's in charge of judging everyone, and decides what's really 'good' and 'bad,' see those 'good things' as 'filthy rags.'
Giving to charity, being a loving father and husband; those things might be 'good,' but they don't make you 'perfect' enough to be in Heaven. All those 'good' things you've done don't make up for all the bad things you've done (and said, and thought.)

Because your good deeds don't make up for your bad deeds (and words, and thoughts,) I see you, Jeff as 'unrighteous,' as 'imperfect,' as 'sinful,' as someone who has 'fallen short' of the standard of perfection that I've set. That standard is Jesus. Jeff, are you as perfect as Jesus?

You can't come into Heaven; you're not perfect. What's more, I need to protect the people in Heaven who are perfect from any bad influence you may have on them.
You can't be on Earth; you've died, and even though you're an atheist, there is an 'afterlife.'
There is only one alternative; Hades (then Gehenna.)"

I think that the Bible teaches that what it comes down to is that God's standard of what's "good" (Jesus) is not the same as mans' standard of "good." Mans' standard of "good" (while arguably fulfilling the last 6 of the 10 commandments, which Jesus nicely summarised as "love your neighbour as yourself") is not "good" enough to allow someone entry into Heaven (it doesn't fulfil the first 4 of the 10 commandments, which Jesus summarised as "love the Lord your God with all your.....,") and that there's ultimately only one alternative.
The Bible teaches that what a person believes determines where that person will spend eternity. How a person lives his life (the "good things" that person does) only has an effect on how that person spends eternity if that person believes what God says are the correct things.

The important thing to remember is that it's not a church that sends a person to Hell. A person may be correct in a particular instance when he says that a person may need to change their ways or they will go to Hell, but it's not that person who actually does the condemning. The Bible says "judge not that ye be not judged." That doesn't mean people are not allowed to have opinions on what is right and wrong. A judge is the authority who delivers a sentence. That verse isn't saying that people are not allowed to think that another person is doing the wrong thing, it's saying that a person (who is not God) should not be the one who delivers the sentence.

[OneThatGotAway]

If anybody tries to tell you that HELL does not exist; DO NOT just take their word for it. Because, before he was born, there were holy men who wrote and recorded the Holy Words of God in the following Holy Scriptures (Bible):

"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;"
"And spared not the old world, but saved Noach the eighth [person], a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;"
"And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned [them] with an overthrow, making [them] an [example] unto those that after should live ungodly;" ---- Holy Letter of Peter 2:4-6

"I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death." ---- Holy Book of Revelation 1:18

"And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth." ---- Holy Book of Revelation 6:8

"And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works."
"And death and hell were cast into the LAKE OF FIRE. This is the second death." ---- Holy Book of Revelation 20:13-14

Now if God punished angels in hell with chains of darkness;
If God punished the people of Noach's day in a worldwide flood;
If God punished the people of Sodom and Omarah with fire and brimstone from heaven;
Then Holy Scriptures shows that He will punished the wicked and evil-doers in the Lake of Fire; in which the Devil and Hell will be there.
I think that many Jews, Christians, and Muslims really believed in hell soooo much that the heeded the warnings of these prophets.

[Snowcat]

The whole world is already in Hell =Hades, that is why their bodies are decaying all around them.

[Beta]

Originally Posted by Snowcat

The whole world is already in Hell =Hades, that is why their bodies are decaying all around them.

If you mean the grave you are right .
They certainly are not in heaven contrary to christian 'born again' belief.

[spanjo]

Mormons believe that only those that have the truth, know it, then willfully rebel against it qualify for eternal damnation. That means that almost all men/women will qualify for some degree of glory in heaven. Contrary to what you have said, only the believers (divine confirmation is required) will be damned . Doesn't that make so much more sense!

[horiturk]

such a God would be cruel and childish and certainly not worthy of any sort of worship

[DavyCrocket2003]

I think that the Bible illustrates what kind of people will go to heaven vs hell.

It is the good people who will go to heaven. Not the ones who believed in/ worshipped the right definition of God. In some cases they are the same.