Did god create us, or did we create god?

[FluentYank3825]

In my opinion, in any religion with a theistic center, one comes to a point where what that religion teaches about its concept of God or any aspect of its theology cannot be logically or empirically explained or proven. That's where faith and belief enters the picture, and I think that the reason that so many religions and philosophies exist in this world is because of the experiences one has that shape and mold one's individual's faith and beliefs, and why so many people change their religions and philosophies as well. Change, experience, and the existence of faith and belief are the only constants in the universe, I feel.

[Michigan Atheist]

Mankind has created a god to explain nearly everything that has been unexplainable, the GOD OF THE GAPS, from the earliest time. Man has needed to have something to explain what modern science has come to KNOW, and that which hasn't been learned yet, is just a matter of time.

[Penumbra]

Originally Posted by ReligiousGirl

True. But, it does no harm to believe in a Creator whilst we are living.

Of course it can do harm, depending on what kind of creator one believes in and how they go about it.

[Misty]

Originally Posted by Penumbra

Of course it can do harm, depending on what kind of creator one believes in and how they go about it.

I agree

[Tathagata]

Originally Posted by Pithyoneliner

I refer you to Voltaire: "If god did not exist it would be necessary to invent him"

I like Bakunin's version better. :P

"If God existed, it would be necessary to abolish him." - Mikhail Bakunin


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[waitasec]

Originally Posted by Misty

Not all Christians use their religion as a weapon, many are fine people and I have respect for them.

i would agree that there are some good christians
but think about that for a second..."Not all Christians use their religion as a weapon..." what about the rest?

in my country, 30% are considered to be christian and you'll find division and intolerance to be prevalent throughout. the religious right are leaning towards the conservative party that cater to their "moral" judgment...the "sanctity" of marriage... creationism is taught in public school, abstinence only is taught in schools in order to get funding...and they are trying to change history claiming that this country was based on christian principles...when in fact it is not.

i don't know if you heard about our pledge of allegiance controversy, but it was written in the 1800's and in the 1950's the words "under god" was inserted between one nation, indivisible....so now it says; one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
by inserting "under god" they have now divided this country which will give liberty and justice for the majority not for all.

guess you can say i have a bone to pick

[Misty]

Originally Posted by waitasec

i would agree that there are some good christians
but think about that for a second..."Not all Christians use their religion as a weapon..." what about the rest?

in my country, 30% are considered to be christian and you'll find division and intolerance to be prevalent throughout. the religious right are leaning towards the conservative party that cater to their "moral" judgment...the "sanctity" of marriage... creationism is taught in public school, abstinence only is taught in schools in order to get funding...and they are trying to change history claiming that this country was based on christian principles...when in fact it is not.

i don't know if you heard about our pledge of allegiance controversy, but it was written in the 1800's and in the 1950's the words "under god" was inserted between one nation, indivisible....so now it says; one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
by inserting "under god" they have now divided this country which will give liberty and justice for the majority not for all.

guess you can say i have a bone to pick

I am fortunate enough to live in the UK where, on the whole, religion isn't too much of an issue. Most people don't mention their faith position and have much more of live and let live attitude, than I believe is the case in the US.

[waitasec]

Originally Posted by Misty

I am fortunate enough to live in the UK where, on the whole, religion isn't too much of an issue. Most people don't mention their faith position and have much more of live and let live attitude, than I believe is the case in the US.

just recently in Birmingham Alabama, the residents there were trying to close down restaurants that serve foreign food; Mexican, Chinese, Italian...etc
i think the fact this country is isolated, about 18% of the entire US population own a passport, has a lot to do with the closed minded mentality.

[Misty]

Originally Posted by waitasec

just recently in Birmingham Alabama, the residents there were trying to close down restaurants that serve foreign food; Mexican, Chinese, Italian...etc
i think the fact this country is isolated, about 18% of the entire US population own a passport, has a lot to do with the closed minded mentality.

I don't want to be impolite about the US, a country I have not visited, but my kids and most of my relatives have been to the US, and they find its citizens rather naive about religion compared to us in the UK.

[Nerthus]

Originally Posted by Penumbra

Of course it can do harm, depending on what kind of creator one believes in and how they go about it.

The believers might create the problem, but not the Creator.