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Old 07-24-2009, 05:04 PM
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I notice that for a lot of people atheism is synonymous with belief in the theory of evolution.

I have also noticed that for a lot of people belief in the theory of evolution is synonymous with rejecting Christianity.

I know many Christians who believe in the theory of evolution though I have to admit I don't know any atheists who don't believe in it.

Do you think you have to believe in evolution to be an atheist?
If you are an atheist would your 'lack of faith' collapse if the theory of evolution was disproved?
Is the theory of evolution incongruent with the beliefs of mainstream religions ?

For me atheism means one thing , I don't believe the probablity of the existence of a god is strong enough to merit belief, thus I do not believe in the existence of a god.
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Old 07-24-2009, 05:25 PM
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Evolution is proven. It is fact. There is nothing left to faith. There are theoretical aspects to how evolution happened along the way but I don't need to believe in it like I don't need to believe in the internal combustion engine.
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Old 07-24-2009, 05:32 PM
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The theory of evolution is eminently probable, but it is not yet a proven fact, I personally believe in it but that is besides the point.

My questions relate to the concept of atheism being tied up in evolutionary theory, when it predates it and if the theory of evolution were to be disproved I would still be an atheist, the two ideas are not hinged on each other for me.
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Do you think you have to believe in evolution to be an atheist?
It's not a requirement, no.
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Interesting question. If an atheist doesn't believe in evolution and, because he is an atheist, he doesn't believe in faith/creation...where does the atheist think the origins of the world come from? Fascinating. I suppose such a person does not exist.
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The theory of evolution is eminently probable, but it is not yet a proven fact, I personally believe in it but that is besides the point.
Evolution is just as proven as gravity or the chemical model of matter. Scientists have directly observed evolution (notably in fruit flies), and we all feel the results in some way or another whenever flu season runs by. Not sure about full-on species changes, but somebody more knowledgeable like PW would know a lot more about that than me. The only potential controversy is the means of evolution, and even for that the current model works pretty damn well.
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I notice that for a lot of people atheism is synonymous with belief in the theory of evolution.
Have you ever noticed that the people advocating this viewpoint tend to know very little about either? Just a thought.

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I have also noticed that for a lot of people belief in the theory of evolution is synonymous with rejecting Christianity.
I think this only held by biblical literalists.

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Do you think you have to believe in evolution to be an atheist?
No. I remember a very strange email correspondence I had with an atheistic Raelian. The question you ask us pretty equivalent to this one: Do you think you have to believe in gravity to be an atheist?

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If you are an atheist would your 'lack of faith' collapse if the theory of evolution was disproved?
This question doesn’t even begin to come close to making sense. If the theory of gravity were disproved would that make me doubt my lack of faith? Pretty much the same question and equally as meaningless.

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Is the theory of evolution incongruent with the beliefs of mainstream religions ?
I would have said yes before reading some of the threads on this forum. I hope the answer the yes for the scientific literacy of the world.

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Interesting question. If an atheist doesn't believe in evolution and, because he is an atheist, he doesn't believe in faith/creation...where does the atheist think the origins of the world come from? Fascinating. I suppose such a person does not exist.
False dichotomy.
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False dichotomy.
Then show me such a person. I don't deny the possibility - I just don't think he/she exists.
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Then show me such a person. I don't deny the possibility - I just don't think he/she exists.
I have to agree with you here. Though it would be remarkable to find such a person.
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If an atheist doesn't believe in evolution and, because he is an atheist, he doesn't believe in faith/creation...where does the atheist think the origins of the world come from? Fascinating. I suppose such a person does not exist.
The theory of evolution has nothing to do with origins of the world. That said, he could believe that the world has always existed. Some on RF have expressed this view.
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