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Old 01-04-2005, 09:37 AM
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I just got done watching the remake of DAWN OF THE DEAD, I was really looking forward to it too. I am a big fan of the original (actually I am a tremendous fan of George Romero) and I am sad to say the remake wasn’t really that interesting or innovative.



Why does Hollywood take the great films that we love and remake them?



Is it a generational marketing ploy? (For example there were many younger people who I asked about Dawn Of The Dead and they enjoyed it but confessed they hadn’t seen the original).



If the original is not broken why fix it?



Does anyone here know of any remake that was actually better than the original?



Can the money that it takes to produce the films be applied to more original movies ideas and concepts or has Hollywood really run dry of ideas?



What if they took your favorite film and remade it…..badly?



Is there any older film that you can think of that needs a generational/technological facelift?



Even if a movie company is passionate about re-making a classic should this movie company have the right to bring it a theater near you? Should we be offended if it is not even a good film? Or should we just say “Oh well, they tried?”
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I won`t even go to see a re-make especially if an original movie I liked.
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I wish I had that kind of determination. There is a part of me that is intrigued, especially with the advances of technology or the budgetary aspects of a movie project. It makes me curious enough to wonder what exactly is going to be new and exciting that they are going to bring to the table and then there are films like the Stepford Wives that makes me wish I didn’t spend the time or money.

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I wish I had that kind of determination. There is a part of me that is intrigued, especially with the advances of technology or the budgetary aspects of a movie project. It makes me curious enough to wonder what exactly is going to be new and exciting that they are going to bring to the table and then there are films like the Stepford Wives that makes me wish I didn’t spend the time or money.

Oh I`m still intrigued when they come out expecially if it is a flick I really liked but I`ve just seen too many that had no purpose other than making a buck off the originals name.

For example the remake of the Exorcist done recently .
I didn`t see it and I won`t because I wonder why they even made it.
What was wrong with the original?

It was one of the best horror flicks ever made.

Why mess with it?

One area where I may do a 180 in my opinion of remakes is sci-fi and b horror flicks to a degree.

I was a big matinee lover when I was a kid and we used to see all these old movies on the big screen.
I loved them even as I laughed at the horrid effects.

I might be persuaded to go see a remake of one of these with todays effects capabilities .

Just for fun.

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Ok, I've got a lot of thoughts about remakes, so this is a good topic for me. Let me begin. First, I should say that I am a HUGE Romero fan as well and Dawn is my favorite in the dead trilogy and it was because of this that I haven't seen the remake. From the moment I heard it was being redone, I said I was boycotting it completely and have stuck to it. I will never watch that new one and it is mostly because I am a huge Romero fan, but also because Dawn didn't need to be remade.

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I think it's about the money. Notice how most of the movies being remade are horror movies: Dawn of the dead, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Thirteen Ghosts, The Haunting, House on Haunted Hill, etc. Kids today love horror movies, but I'd say 80% of them haven't seen these originals and so directors, IMO, think that by remaking these old classics they will 1)Be bringing these movies to a younger audience and 2)Making tons of money off these kids who wait and wait for a new horror movie to hit the theatres.

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Is it a generational marketing ploy? (For example there were many younger people who I asked about Dawn Of The Dead and they enjoyed it but confessed they hadn’t seen the original).
I think it is, for sure. (See above). Do you know how many people I know who claim that Thirteen Ghosts is their favorite horror movie, but then have no clue that it was a remake?

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If the original is not broken why fix it?
This also falls in with my previous thoughts. Personally, I don't think any movies should be remade. This is including remakes like Ju-On: The Grudge and The Grudge. While they were both done by the same director, I think that the original Japanese version was a million times better than the Hollywood Blockbuster-esque English version.

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Does anyone here know of any remake that was actually better than the original?
Right off the top of my head, I can't think of any, but I must confess I haven't seen all of these remakes done in recent years. I often refuse to see them because I hate remakes.

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Can the money that it takes to produce the films be applied to more original movies ideas and concepts or has Hollywood really run dry of ideas?
This is a good question, personally I dislike "new" horror movies, ie. horror movies made in recent years, because of the money they put in them. Remake or original idea, IMO these blockbuster horror movies put too much value in the amount of money used for the CGI and not enough into the ideas to actually make the movie scary. Older movies, to me anyway, are way better because they didn't have the money (or the technology) to use all this CGI. They, instead, had to focus on making the movie psychologically creepy rather than just using CGI to make that 5 second "jump" scare that new horror movies are known for. This results in the older movies having a lasting under-your-skin effect and the "frights" of the new movies being over as soon as the skeleton goes back in the closet.

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What if they took your favorite film and remade it…..badly?
Well I think that if anyone ever remade Spider Baby into a blockbuster horror movie, I would lose my mind.

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Is there any older film that you can think of that needs a generational/technological facelift?
No, not at all, but perhaps my opinion on this is biased because no matter how unscary or cheesy they are, I always prefer old horror movies.

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Even if a movie company is passionate about re-making a classic should this movie company have the right to bring it a theater near you? Should we be offended if it is not even a good film? Or should we just say “Oh well, they tried?”
Well, I think they have the right to put it in any theatre and to remake any movie they can get the rights for, but anytime a movie is remade (especially horror movies, as they are my passion), I get deeply offended (even if they are an extremely good movie, which off the top of my head I cannot think of any remakes that I would consider good) and never, ever say "Oh well, they tried."
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Even if a movie company is passionate about re-making a classic should this movie company have the right to bring it a theater near you? Should we be offended if it is not even a good film? Or should we just say “Oh well, they tried?”
I think if it looks like they really gave it a try then there shouldn't be a big stink about it...if it looks like they slapped it together to get the money then someone should be drug out into the streets and shot

Personally i liked the new Dawn of the Dead, i've seen both and i thought the second was a good version...though you could tell they geared it for this generation.

just a side not Romero is doing another Dead movie..."Land of the Dead" i think it's called to "complete" the series
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I think Land of the Dead is just a working title, though I could be wrong. I know it was originally supposed to be called "Dead Reckoning" but he recently changed it. He started working on it either last year or the year before, but couldn't get enough funding to continue it until just recently. I can't wait for it to come out.
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I don't mind remakes... I love movies and I love watching them. I generally take each remake as it's own entity, because honestly, nothing is ever gonna take the nostalgia from a movie you love away... and in no way does watching a new version of it, ruin your love of the original. I'm a huge Romero fan, and I really enjoyed the remake... it was a fun 'modern' interpretation. I got a kick that the the guy on the TV that says "When there's no room left in hell, the dead will walk the earth" is the same actor who said it in the origional.

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I don't think they're trying to 'fix' it. Try not to think that they are.

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What if they took your favorite film and remade it…..badly?
I'd take it as it is, judge it based on that, and watch the original again

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For example the remake of the Exorcist done recently .
They remade The Exorsist!? Bah, where am I and why havn't I seen it! I only know of the new exorcist movie (deals with origins or something of the like) and I'm not sure if that's out yet or not (sucks being in Japan sometimes, but not often )
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